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Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."Vivaldi: "Cool.

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  • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

    @leeloo @lebochequirit @Vivaldi @IzzyOnDroid Also for closed-source apps?? That is kinda disheartening, although a user of course decide which external repos to install.

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    wrote last edited by
    #28

    @anderslund @lebochequirit @Vivaldi @IzzyOnDroid
    An f-droid repo is basically a list of APKs - plus some signing stuff. There is no way it could differentiate between closed and open source (at least as long as whoever is building the repo has the code).

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    • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

      @anderslund @lebochequirit @Vivaldi @IzzyOnDroid
      An f-droid repo is basically a list of APKs - plus some signing stuff. There is no way it could differentiate between closed and open source (at least as long as whoever is building the repo has the code).

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      wrote last edited by
      #29

      @leeloo @lebochequirit @Vivaldi @IzzyOnDroid Well, f-droid users have to be carefull then 🙂

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      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

        Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
        Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
        Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
        Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
        Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
        Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

        Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
        https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

        gustodon@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #30

        @Vivaldi It looks like you're doing great work. Now let's hurl some alt-text on those images so I can boost your posts.

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        • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

          @leeloo @lebochequirit @Vivaldi @IzzyOnDroid Well, f-droid users have to be carefull then 🙂

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          wrote last edited by
          #31

          @anderslund @lebochequirit @Vivaldi @IzzyOnDroid
          Same as adding untrusted repos to any other package manager.

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          • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

            Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
            Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
            Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
            Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
            Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
            Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

            Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
            https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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            #32

            @Vivaldi blocked for making me scroll a mile

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            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

              Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
              Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
              Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
              Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
              Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
              Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

              Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
              https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

              mmphosis@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #33

              @Vivaldi
              • Manifest V2 extensions won't work but Manifest V3 AI extensions will "Because Vivaldi is built using the Chromium web browser project, extensions available in the Chrome Web Store can also be installed in Vivaldi."

              • if liked the Big Tech browser engine Chromium used by Chrome, Vivaldi, Edge, Brave, etc... that would be okay but I am de-googling so no Google Chromium based Vivaldi for me.

              • if liked tabs, I guess Vivaldi would be cool, but I absolutely cannot stand tabs.

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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                wrote last edited by
                #34

                @Vivaldi Really thinking about switching to Vivaldi now as this is a feature I wanted for years already.. But I dont really want to give Google a complete monopoly on their rendering engine 😞

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                • mmphosis@mastodon.socialM mmphosis@mastodon.social

                  @Vivaldi
                  • Manifest V2 extensions won't work but Manifest V3 AI extensions will "Because Vivaldi is built using the Chromium web browser project, extensions available in the Chrome Web Store can also be installed in Vivaldi."

                  • if liked the Big Tech browser engine Chromium used by Chrome, Vivaldi, Edge, Brave, etc... that would be okay but I am de-googling so no Google Chromium based Vivaldi for me.

                  • if liked tabs, I guess Vivaldi would be cool, but I absolutely cannot stand tabs.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #35

                  @mmphosis @Vivaldi
                  So, Vivaldi is not for you. But the , why are you commenting? Find a browser that is for you, and go comment on there instead.

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                  • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

                    @mmphosis @Vivaldi
                    So, Vivaldi is not for you. But the , why are you commenting? Find a browser that is for you, and go comment on there instead.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #36

                    @leeloo @Vivaldi Vivaldi could be for me. I am commenting here because the web browser for me does not exist. Allow Manifest V2 extensions; use a different browser engine like Servo, LibWeb, or build your own; and if Vivaldi was truly customizable I could turn off tabs amongst other features.

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                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                      Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                      Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                      Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                      Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                      Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                      Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                      Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                      https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

                      pallenberg@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #37

                      @Vivaldi the new update is amazing! Thank you, team Vivaldi!

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                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                        Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                        Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                        Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                        Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                        Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                        Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                        Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                        https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                        #38

                        @Vivaldi@vivaldi.neti
                        I think this may be the longest toot on record. Can anyone verify?
                        Also, nice browser.

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                        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                          Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                          Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                          Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                          Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                          Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                          Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                          Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                          https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                          moosader@mastodon.gamedev.place
                          wrote last edited by
                          #39

                          @Vivaldi I want to retoot this but the quote toot within is so long 😭

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                          • mmphosis@mastodon.socialM mmphosis@mastodon.social

                            @leeloo @Vivaldi Vivaldi could be for me. I am commenting here because the web browser for me does not exist. Allow Manifest V2 extensions; use a different browser engine like Servo, LibWeb, or build your own; and if Vivaldi was truly customizable I could turn off tabs amongst other features.

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #40

                            @mmphosis @Vivaldi
                            Vivaldi allows manifest V2 extensions, but they don't have the manpower to keep them working once upstream removes the code.

                            The tab bar can be turned off.

                            Using a different browser engine basically means a different browser, so if that's a requirement, then no, Vivaldi is not for you. As for building their own browser engine, again, they don't have the manpower.

                            You could try building your own browser - you're probably the same number of developers short of having the manpower to pull it off as they are.

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                            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                              Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                              Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                              Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                              Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                              Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                              Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                              Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                              https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #41

                              @Vivaldi As mentioned in your post, the previous implementation of Pinned Tabs never made sense to me. Restricting the pinned tab to a particular domain is a good step. However, I would like to see a keyboard shortcut that returns the pinned tab to the original pinned URL. Dia offers that option.

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                              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                                Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                                Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                                Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                                Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                                Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                                Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                                https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

                                bonsai861@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote last edited by
                                #42

                                @Vivaldi So much text in a single post!

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                                • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                  Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                                  Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                                  Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                                  Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                                  Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                                  Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                                  Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                                  https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #43

                                  @Vivaldi just loaded it and going to give it a try, any tips for a new user?

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                                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                    Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                                    Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                                    Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                                    Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                                    Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                                    Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                                    Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                                    https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #44

                                    @Vivaldi I love this!❤️

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                                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                      Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                                      Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                                      Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                                      Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                                      Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                                      Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                                      Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                                      https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

                                      ami@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #45

                                      @Vivaldi
                                      Sigh, it seems like I'm back where I started.
                                      I used the Opera browser for years when first coming to Linux. I just managed to pay to remove the nag banner before It went free 😁
                                      Then when it became just another chrome clone I switched to #Firefox, but given the latest "We heard you and we don't give a shit; here's some more AI" it seems I'll be giving #Vivaldi a try.
                                      I have also been switching to #LibreWolf. Let's do a real A-B test 😀

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                                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                        Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                                        Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                                        Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                                        Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                                        Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                                        Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                                        Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                                        https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #46

                                        @Vivaldi New tab features for everyone else, but not for me... try to drag a tab to tile it on a touchscreen and boom the browser locks for about 60 seconds, then just puts it in a new window once it unlocks.

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                                        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                          Big Tech: "Introducing AI that can hallucinate answers to questions you didn't ask"
                                          Vivaldi: "We made the most advanced tab multitasking system ever built”
                                          Big Tech: "But AI is the future…."
                                          Vivaldi: "Cool. Our future includes a browser the user controls, and it shipped today"
                                          Big Tech: "You're missing the point…."
                                          Vivaldi: "You're missing the download link"

                                          Vivaldi 7.8. No bullshit. Just love for tabs and our users
                                          https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-8/

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #47

                                          @Vivaldi
                                          Love Vivaldi, just wish the mobile version was a little more feature rich.

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