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A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

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  • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

    @evilstevie @mjd That’s dark, but relatable.

    evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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    @meltedcheese @mjd when called upon for tech support I carry a Leatherman, full set o' bits and the hope that this time I'll get to actually see the problem. rarely do.

    oddly that seems to work for software too.

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    • evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net

      @meltedcheese @mjd when called upon for tech support I carry a Leatherman, full set o' bits and the hope that this time I'll get to actually see the problem. rarely do.

      oddly that seems to work for software too.

      mjd@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @evilstevie @meltedcheese I carry a full set of bits also, a zero *and* a one.

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      • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

        @mjd

        doesn't seem like orange presidents are doing much finding out despite all of their fucking around.

        might as well let the computers have at it.

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        #23

        @saltywizard @mjd yeah that would require beging able and willing to learn, same problem really

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        • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

          @evilstevie @meltedcheese I carry a full set of bits also, a zero *and* a one.

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          #24

          @mjd @evilstevie @meltedcheese

          That's a good idea. You can never find one when you need it.

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          • d6@merveilles.townD d6@merveilles.town

            @mjd corollary:

            A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

            THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

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            #25

            @d6 @mjd
            0x07

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            • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

              @d6 @mjd
              0x07

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              #26

              @d6 @mjd
              Mess with the bel, get the horn

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              • d6@merveilles.townD d6@merveilles.town

                @mjd corollary:

                A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

                THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

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                #27

                @d6 @mjd and a gift for you!

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                • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                  A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                  THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                  ll1t@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #28

                  @mjd but isn’t that what reinforcement learning is all about?

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                  • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                    A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

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                    #29

                    @mjd Hardware - the part of the computer system that you can kick.

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                    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                      A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                      THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

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                      kkarhan@c.im
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                      #30

                      @mjd +9001%

                      A computer cannot be held accountable, thus it must never make a decision!

                      - Old #IBM quote

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                      • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

                        @mjd +9001%

                        A computer cannot be held accountable, thus it must never make a decision!

                        - Old #IBM quote

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                        #31

                        @kkarhan Yes, that is what I was alluding to.

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                        • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                          A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                          THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

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                          #32

                          @mjd "FIND OUT" — meaning "experience loss".

                          I need to re-read that old book by Richard Powers, Galatea 2.2. Seems very apt now.

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                          • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                            A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                            THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

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                            #33

                            @mjd

                            Wait, not even Friend @Computer

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                            • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                              A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                              THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

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                              #34

                              @mjd This is v good

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                              • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

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                                #35

                                @mjd Isn't fucking around & finding out the exact job of a fuzzer?

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                                • evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net

                                  @meltedcheese @mjd when called upon for tech support I carry a Leatherman, full set o' bits and the hope that this time I'll get to actually see the problem. rarely do.

                                  oddly that seems to work for software too.

                                  avner@anticapitalist.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @evilstevie @meltedcheese @mjd sometimes I can fix my wife's computer problems just by walking into the room. She says her laptop is afraid of me 😆😅

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                                  • ll1t@mastodon.socialL ll1t@mastodon.social

                                    @mjd but isn’t that what reinforcement learning is all about?

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                                    #37

                                    @ll1t the "finding out" typically implies bearing the consequences.

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                                    • avner@anticapitalist.partyA avner@anticapitalist.party

                                      @evilstevie @meltedcheese @mjd sometimes I can fix my wife's computer problems just by walking into the room. She says her laptop is afraid of me 😆😅

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                                      #38

                                      @Avner @evilstevie @mjd That is a useful superpower if the #AI uprising occurs.

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                                      • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

                                        @Avner @evilstevie @mjd That is a useful superpower if the #AI uprising occurs.

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                                        #39

                                        @meltedcheese @Avner @evilstevie @mjd During an AI uprising, you could also crash surveillance drones by forcing them to process your password hash as a control input.

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                                        • phooky@hexa.clubP phooky@hexa.club

                                          @mjd the entire premise of modern ai tools is that computers can indeed find out and so they must be permitted total license to fuck around

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                                          @phooky
                                          Nah, the premise is "we fuck you and also you find out".

                                          Or if we're trying to better fit the original formula, they must be permitted total license to fuck around because they can simulate finding out.

                                          Or they must be permitted total license to fuck around because the Find Out Monster will attack us if we don't.

                                          Or it doesn't matter if they fuck around because they'll magically save us from finding out.
                                          @mjd

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