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Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it.

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  • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

    So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

    Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

    #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

    syntaxseed@phpc.socialS marsiposa@social.coopM bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB michael@mstdn.thms.ukM vantablack2000@mastodon.gamedev.placeV 5 Replies Last reply
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    • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

      Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

      So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

      Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

      #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

      syntaxseed@phpc.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      The hope I used to have that *surely* the education sector won't embrace these tools designed for plagiarism & cheating.... was sorely naive.

      #education #parenting #OnPoli #teaching #CdnPoli

      syntaxseed@phpc.socialS libraryandtea@ottawa.placeL misusecase@twit.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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      • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

        The hope I used to have that *surely* the education sector won't embrace these tools designed for plagiarism & cheating.... was sorely naive.

        #education #parenting #OnPoli #teaching #CdnPoli

        syntaxseed@phpc.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

        Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

        #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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        • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

          I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

          Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

          #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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          Aging into our senior years in a future where the generation filling our prescriptions, paving our roads & funding our pensions can't read a f*cking email without asking #ChatGPT v38 to summarize & workflow it for them is going to be a real delight. \s 😑

          #aging #parenting #AI #CdnPoli #education

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          • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

            The hope I used to have that *surely* the education sector won't embrace these tools designed for plagiarism & cheating.... was sorely naive.

            #education #parenting #OnPoli #teaching #CdnPoli

            libraryandtea@ottawa.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @syntaxseed teachers don’t like ai because the kids are using it to cheat, but they love using ChatGPT to write emails for them. They assign shit assignments that use the “art” ai. Or one they love is to compare how an LLM did on creating a timeline in the name of media literacy.
            It doesn’t help that it’s coming down from the boards either. “Use this great tool to create your tests and slides! You’ll have far more time to spend with the students!”
            There has been no thought into environmental impacts, or hallucinations. It’s bleak in education right now.
            (Sorry. Rant over)

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            • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

              Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

              So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

              Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

              #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

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              @syntaxseed oh no, I'm sorry to hear it has got so deep even in the lower grades.

              I'm taking a quarter off from teaching 100-level college classes, and possibly won't return, because of a similar reason. It was heartbreaking / infuriating / plain annoying to see students loose their own voice and self, while at the same time having admin sending surveys about how were we implementing AI in the curriculum, and slowly seeing faculty move further and further towards that.

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              • libraryandtea@ottawa.placeL libraryandtea@ottawa.place

                @syntaxseed teachers don’t like ai because the kids are using it to cheat, but they love using ChatGPT to write emails for them. They assign shit assignments that use the “art” ai. Or one they love is to compare how an LLM did on creating a timeline in the name of media literacy.
                It doesn’t help that it’s coming down from the boards either. “Use this great tool to create your tests and slides! You’ll have far more time to spend with the students!”
                There has been no thought into environmental impacts, or hallucinations. It’s bleak in education right now.
                (Sorry. Rant over)

                syntaxseed@phpc.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @LibraryAndTea Absolutely!! 💯 I can't believe that everyone in any kind of decision making capacity doesn't see that

                ChatGPT, make my slides for me
                becomes
                Write my paper for me
                becomes
                Do my research for me
                becomes
                ChatGPT who should I vote for?
                becomes
                Tell me you love me
                etc etc

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                • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                  I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

                  Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

                  #LLM #AI #parenting #education

                  rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @syntaxseed spot on.

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                  • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                    I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

                    Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

                    #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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                    @syntaxseed This is the number 1 issue I have with schools adopting AI so quickly. Imagine if in 2009 schools were like "we think social media is going to be very important in the future so we are mandating all classes use Facebook" and how we are still only *now* learning just how negatively social media affects people (and children in particular).

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                    • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                      I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

                      Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

                      #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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                      @syntaxseed
                      That's the whole point. Critical thinking makes for less controllable people who question authority. That's why Texas keeps trying to ban teaching it.

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                      • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                        Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

                        So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

                        Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

                        #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

                        bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @syntaxseed that's actually disgusting and any teacher telling children their work isn't good enough next to AI should feel eternally ashamed.

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                        • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                          Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

                          So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

                          Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

                          #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

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                          @syntaxseed The other 'fun' thing is my older kid (year 7 - first year of secondary school in the UK) is complaining that his teachers are increasingly using AI to both plan lessons, set, and EVALUATE home work.

                          All whilst they are prohibited from using AI (and of course many still use it).

                          Not sure whether that is better or worse than your experience…

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                          • bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.dev

                            @syntaxseed that's actually disgusting and any teacher telling children their work isn't good enough next to AI should feel eternally ashamed.

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                            @bryce To be fair, this is a worry my son has developed himself & not something the teacher is saying or implying. But it's very upsetting.

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                              @syntaxseed The other 'fun' thing is my older kid (year 7 - first year of secondary school in the UK) is complaining that his teachers are increasingly using AI to both plan lessons, set, and EVALUATE home work.

                              All whilst they are prohibited from using AI (and of course many still use it).

                              Not sure whether that is better or worse than your experience…

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                              @michael Oh I have no doubt that many teachers are all-in on using it themselves. Who can resist a simple shortcut?

                              My son says his teacher uses AI for a lot of her own needs. But I'm in a position with this school where I have to be very careful about criticizing the teachers specifically. So I'm going to start with registering my concerns to the principal & opting my own kids out of it's use.

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                              • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                                I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

                                Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

                                #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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                                @syntaxseed Yup. As a professor in a graduate program, I expect to be long since retired before these folks reach my level…. While my university is doing a good job at embracing/teaching ‘responsible’ AI, I shudder to think what kids are being taught (or not taught) at the lower levels of education and what bodes for the future workforce and future adults.

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                                • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                                  @bryce To be fair, this is a worry my son has developed himself & not something the teacher is saying or implying. But it's very upsetting.

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                                  @syntaxseed I feel so bad for people (kids especially) thinking it's unacceptable to not look like you're good at things. And that really is the issue: AI doesn't make you good at things, it just might make you *look* like you are - it's a lying tool that encourages dependence.

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                                  • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                                    Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

                                    So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

                                    Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

                                    #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

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                                    @syntaxseed That is terrible. At the very least hopefully you can help your son feel like he doesn't have to use AI. The whole adoption of AI by so many people just makes me depressed at this point.

                                    We are literally just going to turn into the people in Wall-E the direction society is heading.

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                                    • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                                      @LibraryAndTea Absolutely!! 💯 I can't believe that everyone in any kind of decision making capacity doesn't see that

                                      ChatGPT, make my slides for me
                                      becomes
                                      Write my paper for me
                                      becomes
                                      Do my research for me
                                      becomes
                                      ChatGPT who should I vote for?
                                      becomes
                                      Tell me you love me
                                      etc etc

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                                      @syntaxseed @LibraryAndTea This reminds me! I know a teacher who after been provided with a Claude subscription, decided to use it to mark students essays, so he can spend more time watching TV

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                                      • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                                        The hope I used to have that *surely* the education sector won't embrace these tools designed for plagiarism & cheating.... was sorely naive.

                                        #education #parenting #OnPoli #teaching #CdnPoli

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                                        @syntaxseed The education sector loves technical snake oil that they think they can use as One Weird Trick to avoid hiring more teachers and reducing class sizes.

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                                        • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

                                          @syntaxseed The education sector loves technical snake oil that they think they can use as One Weird Trick to avoid hiring more teachers and reducing class sizes.

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                                          @MisuseCase This is spot on! 🎯

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