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Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suithttps://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

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  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

    Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
    https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

    > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

    #AI #Hype

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    @rysiek If you read further...

    > The complaint says DoorDash drivers began waiting to batch multiple orders together after gaining virtual visibility into kitchen systems, allowing them to see when pizzas would come out of the oven.

    > Instead of immediately leaving with a completed order, the suit claims drivers waited "up to fifteen (15) minutes" for additional deliveries, increasing the time between when a pizza is removed from the oven rack and when it leaves the building to be delivered. That delay slowed deliveries, disappointed customers, and caused a sharp drop in sales, the suit says.

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
      https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

      > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

      #AI #Hype

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      @rysiek instead of baking the pizzas and just hoping and praying that an independent contractor (door-dasher) sees the order in an app and chooses to take it, they should consider hiring delivery people directly and pay them a good wage and pension

      would literally solve all their problems

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      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

        Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
        https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

        > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

        #AI #Hype

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        @rysiek Not exactly right: “Instead of immediately leaving with a completed order, the suit claims drivers waited ‘up to fifteen (15) minutes’ for additional deliveries, increasing the time between when a pizza is removed from the oven rack and when it leaves the building to be delivered. The lawsuit also alleges Dashers could see tip amounts and whether orders were cash payments, making some drivers less likely to accept certain deliveries.”

        The AI software did exactly what it was supposed to do. The delivery drivers were never meant to have that much access.

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        • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

          @grob @rysiek Even before it was a stale cold mess, it was a hot greasy mess. The only thing it has going for it is the price

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          @trebach @grob @rysiek and before that it was a place to take the family to sit down and share a pizza together, pick out some music on the jukebox and play video games while waiting for the pizza to arrive as the parents got to have a 1:1 conversation with the kids entertained. But technology took care of all that!

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          • cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net

            @trebach @grob @rysiek and before that it was a place to take the family to sit down and share a pizza together, pick out some music on the jukebox and play video games while waiting for the pizza to arrive as the parents got to have a 1:1 conversation with the kids entertained. But technology took care of all that!

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            @cmthiede @grob @rysiek Provided you had enough quarters. I liked the lunch buffet they had

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            • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

              @rysiek I hate so-called AI, but in this case it seems to me it was more a "problem" of "giving a little more knowledge and power to delivery drivers"?

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              @jollysea @rysiek

              And the root cause for the dashers to optimize is a crappy earning levels to begin with? (just a guess)

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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                #AI #Hype

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                @rysiek Did the AI somehow break through a "guardrail" and give drivers way too much info? Can't see how that'd go wrong, not like anyone's ever played an AI against itself.

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                • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

                  @cmthiede @grob @rysiek Provided you had enough quarters. I liked the lunch buffet they had

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                  @trebach @grob @rysiek yeah, it was a decent place when it still had a soul.

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                  • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

                    @grob @rysiek Even before it was a stale cold mess, it was a hot greasy mess. The only thing it has going for it is the price

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                    @trebach @rysiek no lies detected

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                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                      Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                      https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                      > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                      #AI #Hype

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                      @rysiek

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                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                        Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                        https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                        > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                        #AI #Hype

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                        @rysiek unpaywalled link https://archive.is/6NvBm

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                          https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                          > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                          #AI #Hype

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                          @rysiek Put a robot to do a human’s job..

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                          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                            Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                            https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                            > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                            #AI #Hype

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                            @rysiek #AI is #clankers 🤖 all the way down, and that’s why #wankers love 💕 it *so much!*

                            Even *more* than hot pizza 🍕, apparently!

                            #Resist #AIslop.

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

                              Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

                              But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

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                              @rysiek I have the same issue with deductive logic applied to the real world.

                              'Everybody is just "doing it wrong", it's really a good tool, otherwise.'

                              Somehow the total preponderance of "human error" in that domain is not a fundamental fault in the tool, can't be, it's infallible, you know!!

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                              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                                https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                                > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                                #AI #Hype

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                                @rysiek CC @davidgerard

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                                • cnr@fosstodon.orgC cnr@fosstodon.org

                                  @jollysea

                                  @rysiek 100% this. There is no mention of any AI in the whole text beside the clickbite title

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                                  @cnr

                                  There are mentions of it several times, though.

                                  The failure here is a particular one, not the usual hallucinations - The company wanted to make something, anything at all, with "AI".
                                  So they replaced a functioning system that had purpose-guided information flows with "something, anything with 'AI'".
                                  And because it was "with 'AI'" no thought was given to the purposes involved, old knowledge was disregarded, and I am willing to bet, SMEs were told to "work with it, not against it" or "fail fast so we can improve it", without actually checking if this "something, anything" was a good idea.

                                  @jollysea @rysiek

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

                                    Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

                                    But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

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                                    @rysiek@mstdn.social > The complaint says DoorDash drivers began waiting to batch multiple orders together after gaining virtual visibility into kitchen systems, allowing them to see when pizzas would come out of the oven. Instead of immediately leaving with a completed order, the suit claims drivers waited "up to fifteen (15) minutes" for additional deliveries[...]

                                    The lawsuit also alleges Dashers could see tip amounts and whether orders were cash payments, making some drivers less likely to accept certain deliveries.

                                    this one really is "just" a labor problem (food delivery services underpay while doing over-optimized pay schemes to the drivers) / suboptimal product decision (oversharing someone else's data) that's not unique to AI though, unless we assume that some AI did the entirety of PM's job and got rubberstamped. One can share the kitchen data in plain text with drivers and get the same outcome.

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                                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                      Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

                                      Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

                                      But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

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                                      @rysiek «The complaint says DoorDash drivers began waiting to batch multiple orders together after gaining virtual visibility into kitchen systems»

                                      This sounds like an intentional plan to extract money from restaurants and pump it into the gatekeepers' bank accounts (a joint DoorDash/Pizza Hut goal I presume).

                                      The main contribution of "AI" is presumably the hope that it provides plausible deniability for said high street robbery.

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                                      • tymwol@hachyderm.ioT tymwol@hachyderm.io

                                        @rysiek unpaywalled link https://archive.is/6NvBm

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                                        @tymwol @rysiek

                                        When possible, use archive.org

                                        archive.today also owns the urls:
                                        archive.fo
                                        archive.is
                                        archive.li
                                        archive.md
                                        archive.ph
                                        archive.vn

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                                        Wikipedia blacklists Archive.today, starts removing 695,000 archive links

                                        If DDoSing a blog wasn't bad enough, archive site also tampered with web snapshots.

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                                        Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

                                        Archive.today has begun rolling out Google's reCaptcha as well, which is concerning when it can be altered.

                                        I do not have evidence, but I can see how this could possibly be a malware vector in the future.

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                                        • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                          @rysiek I have the same issue with deductive logic applied to the real world.

                                          'Everybody is just "doing it wrong", it's really a good tool, otherwise.'

                                          Somehow the total preponderance of "human error" in that domain is not a fundamental fault in the tool, can't be, it's infallible, you know!!

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                                          @androcat @rysiek Here you have a tool that's non deterministic in nature, trained on human behavior and which impact have not been fully tested. What were we expecting exactly? But yes, it's absolutely the tool's fault.

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