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Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suithttps://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

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  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
    https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

    > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

    #AI #Hype

    rysiek@mstdn.socialR grob@mstdn.socialG haliphax@hachyderm.ioH wizbean@tech.lgbtW mighty_orbot@retro.pizzaM 16 Replies Last reply
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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
      https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

      > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

      #AI #Hype

      rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

      Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

      But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

      noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN jollysea@chaos.socialJ endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE makdaam@chaos.socialM jameswneal@mstdn.socialJ 12 Replies Last reply
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      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

        Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

        Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

        But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

        noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @rysiek having this exact thing from people about a post from someone who says their (assuming US) company denied them their monthly pay because the AI output claimed they'd been slacking off (having clocked off early one time for a medical thing).

        Oh well that's just a bad company.

        I mean, yes. But. Now they're worse.

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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

          Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

          But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

          jollysea@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @rysiek I hate so-called AI, but in this case it seems to me it was more a "problem" of "giving a little more knowledge and power to delivery drivers"?

          cnr@fosstodon.orgC henrik@eliitin-some.fiH rysiek@mstdn.socialR 3 Replies Last reply
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          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

            Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
            https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

            > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

            #AI #Hype

            grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @rysiek I love how, on top of a forced AI system, just plain old greed and capitalist optimization attempts backfired. Seems the business of business should sometimes be just delivering pizza. Not batch processing stale, cold messes.

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            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

              Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

              Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

              But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

              endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @rysiek
              Reminds me of something, but i can't quite put my finger on it

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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

                Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

                But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

                makdaam@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @rysiek But Rysiek, isn't the important part all the bonuses some C-levels got for AI adoption metrics?

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                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                  Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

                  Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

                  But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

                  jameswneal@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @rysiek you had me at "holding it wrong."

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                  • grob@mstdn.socialG grob@mstdn.social

                    @rysiek I love how, on top of a forced AI system, just plain old greed and capitalist optimization attempts backfired. Seems the business of business should sometimes be just delivering pizza. Not batch processing stale, cold messes.

                    trebach@functional.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @grob @rysiek Even before it was a stale cold mess, it was a hot greasy mess. The only thing it has going for it is the price

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                    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                      @rysiek I hate so-called AI, but in this case it seems to me it was more a "problem" of "giving a little more knowledge and power to delivery drivers"?

                      cnr@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jollysea

                      @rysiek 100% this. There is no mention of any AI in the whole text beside the clickbite title

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                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                        Can't wait for all the "no but it's not the AI, they implemented it wrong" replies.

                        Somehow whenever slop generators are involved, however incidentally, in something that can be claimed to work, it's "AI DID A THING".

                        But when they end up causing problems it's "human error" or "implemented it poorly" or some other form of good old "you're holding it wrong".

                        rycochet@furs.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @rysiek 2000s online libertarians became cryptobros, became AI enthusiasts, their thing never works because it hasn't been tried, and when it has been tried, it hasn't been tried correctly, in a magical world free of all the structures these things need to even exist in the first place, and where people act exactly like they're told to in order to get perfect results.

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                          https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                          > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                          #AI #Hype

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                          @rysiek If you read further...

                          > The complaint says DoorDash drivers began waiting to batch multiple orders together after gaining virtual visibility into kitchen systems, allowing them to see when pizzas would come out of the oven.

                          > Instead of immediately leaving with a completed order, the suit claims drivers waited "up to fifteen (15) minutes" for additional deliveries, increasing the time between when a pizza is removed from the oven rack and when it leaves the building to be delivered. That delay slowed deliveries, disappointed customers, and caused a sharp drop in sales, the suit says.

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                          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                            Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                            https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                            > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                            #AI #Hype

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                            @rysiek instead of baking the pizzas and just hoping and praying that an independent contractor (door-dasher) sees the order in an app and chooses to take it, they should consider hiring delivery people directly and pay them a good wage and pension

                            would literally solve all their problems

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                              https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                              > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                              #AI #Hype

                              mighty_orbot@retro.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @rysiek Not exactly right: “Instead of immediately leaving with a completed order, the suit claims drivers waited ‘up to fifteen (15) minutes’ for additional deliveries, increasing the time between when a pizza is removed from the oven rack and when it leaves the building to be delivered. The lawsuit also alleges Dashers could see tip amounts and whether orders were cash payments, making some drivers less likely to accept certain deliveries.”

                              The AI software did exactly what it was supposed to do. The delivery drivers were never meant to have that much access.

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                              • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

                                @grob @rysiek Even before it was a stale cold mess, it was a hot greasy mess. The only thing it has going for it is the price

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                                @trebach @grob @rysiek and before that it was a place to take the family to sit down and share a pizza together, pick out some music on the jukebox and play video games while waiting for the pizza to arrive as the parents got to have a 1:1 conversation with the kids entertained. But technology took care of all that!

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                                  @trebach @grob @rysiek and before that it was a place to take the family to sit down and share a pizza together, pick out some music on the jukebox and play video games while waiting for the pizza to arrive as the parents got to have a 1:1 conversation with the kids entertained. But technology took care of all that!

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                                  @cmthiede @grob @rysiek Provided you had enough quarters. I liked the lunch buffet they had

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                                  • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                    @rysiek I hate so-called AI, but in this case it seems to me it was more a "problem" of "giving a little more knowledge and power to delivery drivers"?

                                    henrik@eliitin-some.fiH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jollysea @rysiek

                                    And the root cause for the dashers to optimize is a crappy earning levels to begin with? (just a guess)

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                                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                      Pizza Hut's AI system caused 'cascading' problems and $100M in damages, franchisee alleges in new suit
                                      https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-hut-ai-system-dragontail-lawsuit-franchisee-2026-5

                                      > A top Pizza Hut franchisee says the chain's rollout of an AI-powered delivery system turned once-speedy pizza orders into a cold, late-arriving mess — and cratered a business that had been outperforming nearly every other operator in the system.

                                      #AI #Hype

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                                      @rysiek Did the AI somehow break through a "guardrail" and give drivers way too much info? Can't see how that'd go wrong, not like anyone's ever played an AI against itself.

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                                      • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

                                        @cmthiede @grob @rysiek Provided you had enough quarters. I liked the lunch buffet they had

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                                        @trebach @grob @rysiek yeah, it was a decent place when it still had a soul.

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                                        • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

                                          @grob @rysiek Even before it was a stale cold mess, it was a hot greasy mess. The only thing it has going for it is the price

                                          grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @trebach @rysiek no lies detected

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