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  3. Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs.

Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs.

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

    moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross
    "The current genAI mania may have done more to drive people away from proprietary software than the FSF could ever hope to."
    /me yesterday, while rambling about putting Inspect Element in non-browser software

    https://fe.disroot.org/notice/B5zUZ2ZtDIfnDcLv5E
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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

      Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

      snap2grid@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross If Google is doing this to offload CPU to the hapless users, perhaps some enterprising individual can come with a poisoned version of the file. Your computer, your rules?

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

        Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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        justinmac84@mastodon.social
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        @cstross 6.5 GB for an internet browser! How ridiculous!

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

          Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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          @cstross

          Vivaldi for permanently opened tabs / Mullvad Browser for general browsing.

          Works great, I highly recommend.

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          • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

            @cstross 6.5 GB for an internet browser! How ridiculous!

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            @JustinMac84 Actually it's 1.5Gb for the browser ... and another 5Gb for a sodding local AI model I didn't ask for *which is non-removable and Chrome re-downloads it if you delete it*. Hence nuking the app completely.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              @JustinMac84 Actually it's 1.5Gb for the browser ... and another 5Gb for a sodding local AI model I didn't ask for *which is non-removable and Chrome re-downloads it if you delete it*. Hence nuking the app completely.

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              justinmac84@mastodon.social
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              @cstross At least it's local I guess, but that's an outrageous amount of space for a feature you can't opt out of.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                @cstross I've done the same on Windows. I've switched browsers to Brave for now. Sigh...

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                  Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                  @cstross switch to librefox instead of FF.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                    @cstross you might try those misbehaving sites in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoogled_Chromium ?

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                    • jasonb@sigmoid.socialJ jasonb@sigmoid.social

                      @cstross switch to librefox instead of FF.

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                      #13

                      @jasonb Stop telling me what to do or I will block you.

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                      • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

                        @cstross At least it's local I guess, but that's an outrageous amount of space for a feature you can't opt out of.

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                        @JustinMac84 @cstross
                        Plus not everyone has extrafast or unlimited bandwidth internet.

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                          Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                          @cstross I've been using FF, Brave, and DuckDuckGo, with occasional tangents into less functional browsers like Mojeek, Swisscows, and Ecosia. What drove you to pick FF exclusively?

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                          • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                            @cstross I've been using FF, Brave, and DuckDuckGo, with occasional tangents into less functional browsers like Mojeek, Swisscows, and Ecosia. What drove you to pick FF exclusively?

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                            @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk I don't use FF exclusively. But I've been on FF since it replaced Mozilla and I've been on Mozilla since it replaced Netscape Navigator, and I switched to NN from NCSA Mosaic circa 1995.

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                              Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                              @cstross

                              I was an early adopter of Chrome. Sad to see it become such garbage. I bailed on it sometime last year and went with Vivaldi.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                @cstross Good for you Charlie. I was at the same point last night (using Vivaldi as main browser) but had doubts. After you‘ve done it, I will join you tonight. Google-free Mac it shall be.

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                  Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                  @cstross Please consider Vivaldi instead, they are strongly anti Gen AI. Firefox cannot be trusted, Mozilla loves Gen AI and their "killswitch" is a con. For Firefox rendering, I use LibreWolf instead. LibreWolf is also anti Gen AI.

                                  And please check your email and check out https://stopgenai.com

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                    @cstross question: how did you transfer all your open tabs and extensions? I think that’s what is holding me back…

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                                    • kimcrawley@zeroes.caK kimcrawley@zeroes.ca

                                      @cstross Please consider Vivaldi instead, they are strongly anti Gen AI. Firefox cannot be trusted, Mozilla loves Gen AI and their "killswitch" is a con. For Firefox rendering, I use LibreWolf instead. LibreWolf is also anti Gen AI.

                                      And please check your email and check out https://stopgenai.com

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                                      @kimcrawley I'm considering Waterfox. Big issue is I have a *lot* of open tabs there (FF is my primary browser) on multiple machines. Moving one browser in a day has used up all my spoons.

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                                      • dr_bombay@mstdn.socialD dr_bombay@mstdn.social

                                        @cstross question: how did you transfer all your open tabs and extensions? I think that’s what is holding me back…

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                                        @Dr_Bombay Manually, with some effort!

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @kimcrawley I'm considering Waterfox. Big issue is I have a *lot* of open tabs there (FF is my primary browser) on multiple machines. Moving one browser in a day has used up all my spoons.

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                                          @cstross I understand completely. I'm not familiar with Waterfox, but my assumption is they are likely good.

                                          I think you're a really cool science fiction writer, and I emailed you about Stop Gen AI this morning.

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