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  3. Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs.

Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs.

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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    @cstross you might try those misbehaving sites in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoogled_Chromium ?

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    • jasonb@sigmoid.socialJ jasonb@sigmoid.social

      @cstross switch to librefox instead of FF.

      cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @jasonb Stop telling me what to do or I will block you.

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      • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

        @cstross At least it's local I guess, but that's an outrageous amount of space for a feature you can't opt out of.

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        @JustinMac84 @cstross
        Plus not everyone has extrafast or unlimited bandwidth internet.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

          Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

          somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #15

          @cstross I've been using FF, Brave, and DuckDuckGo, with occasional tangents into less functional browsers like Mojeek, Swisscows, and Ecosia. What drove you to pick FF exclusively?

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          • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

            @cstross I've been using FF, Brave, and DuckDuckGo, with occasional tangents into less functional browsers like Mojeek, Swisscows, and Ecosia. What drove you to pick FF exclusively?

            cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk I don't use FF exclusively. But I've been on FF since it replaced Mozilla and I've been on Mozilla since it replaced Netscape Navigator, and I switched to NN from NCSA Mosaic circa 1995.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

              Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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              @cstross

              I was an early adopter of Chrome. Sad to see it become such garbage. I bailed on it sometime last year and went with Vivaldi.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                #18

                @cstross Good for you Charlie. I was at the same point last night (using Vivaldi as main browser) but had doubts. After you‘ve done it, I will join you tonight. Google-free Mac it shall be.

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                  Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                  @cstross Please consider Vivaldi instead, they are strongly anti Gen AI. Firefox cannot be trusted, Mozilla loves Gen AI and their "killswitch" is a con. For Firefox rendering, I use LibreWolf instead. LibreWolf is also anti Gen AI.

                  And please check your email and check out https://stopgenai.com

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                    @cstross question: how did you transfer all your open tabs and extensions? I think that’s what is holding me back…

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                    • kimcrawley@zeroes.caK kimcrawley@zeroes.ca

                      @cstross Please consider Vivaldi instead, they are strongly anti Gen AI. Firefox cannot be trusted, Mozilla loves Gen AI and their "killswitch" is a con. For Firefox rendering, I use LibreWolf instead. LibreWolf is also anti Gen AI.

                      And please check your email and check out https://stopgenai.com

                      cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @kimcrawley I'm considering Waterfox. Big issue is I have a *lot* of open tabs there (FF is my primary browser) on multiple machines. Moving one browser in a day has used up all my spoons.

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                      • dr_bombay@mstdn.socialD dr_bombay@mstdn.social

                        @cstross question: how did you transfer all your open tabs and extensions? I think that’s what is holding me back…

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                        @Dr_Bombay Manually, with some effort!

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          @kimcrawley I'm considering Waterfox. Big issue is I have a *lot* of open tabs there (FF is my primary browser) on multiple machines. Moving one browser in a day has used up all my spoons.

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                          @cstross I understand completely. I'm not familiar with Waterfox, but my assumption is they are likely good.

                          I think you're a really cool science fiction writer, and I emailed you about Stop Gen AI this morning.

                          Link Preview Image
                          Stop Gen AI – Mutual Aid and Political Activism

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                          (stopgenai.com)

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                            Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                            @cstross it really is a hassle for a lot of people, and if you have left it, the thing will be constantly eating into your processing speed... in a very big way. It would essentially dominate your machine.

                            This really is sinister. The company has reached a stage in their development process where they have nothing new to train the model on.

                            So now they need to train it directly from you, on your machine.

                            It's all that's left for reach.

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                              Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                              firebreathingduck@social.vivaldi.net
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                              @cstross

                              Thanks for posting this. I have Chrome installed everywhere as a backup browser. Time to find a new backup.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                @cstross

                                This could be helpful:

                                Willow (@salixlucida@mastodon.sdf.org)

                                De-Google: https://helium.computer/ De-Mozilla (Firefox surreptitiously "phones home", plus Mozilla wants to make Firefox an "AI browser"): https://zen-browser.app/

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                                Mastodon @ SDF (mastodon.sdf.org)

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                                • paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @cstross

                                  This could be helpful:

                                  Willow (@salixlucida@mastodon.sdf.org)

                                  De-Google: https://helium.computer/ De-Mozilla (Firefox surreptitiously "phones home", plus Mozilla wants to make Firefox an "AI browser"): https://zen-browser.app/

                                  favicon

                                  Mastodon @ SDF (mastodon.sdf.org)

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                                  @ParadeGrotesque @salixlucida No, it's the *opposite* of helpful.

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                    @cstross I had planned to do some writing today but nooo, I'm following your example.

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                      Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                      @cstross I likr waterfox.

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        @Dr_Bombay Manually, with some effort!

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                                        @cstross @Dr_Bombay open tabs you should be able to use OneTab across both, then export and import.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @JustinMac84 Actually it's 1.5Gb for the browser ... and another 5Gb for a sodding local AI model I didn't ask for *which is non-removable and Chrome re-downloads it if you delete it*. Hence nuking the app completely.

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                                          @cstross @JustinMac84
                                          "Another great victory for Marketing."

                                          Coming soon - Alphabet Inc renamed Phyrrus Inc.

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