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  3. Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs.

Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs.

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

    fox@cytag.nlF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross Good choice, and if you want FF without AI, then switch to Waterfox. You can still use your firefox profile btw, so no need to download all your plugins again.

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

      Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

      moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross
      "The current genAI mania may have done more to drive people away from proprietary software than the FSF could ever hope to."
      /me yesterday, while rambling about putting Inspect Element in non-browser software

      https://fe.disroot.org/notice/B5zUZ2ZtDIfnDcLv5E
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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

        Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

        snap2grid@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross If Google is doing this to offload CPU to the hapless users, perhaps some enterprising individual can come with a poisoned version of the file. Your computer, your rules?

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

          Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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          justinmac84@mastodon.social
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          @cstross 6.5 GB for an internet browser! How ridiculous!

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

            Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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            @cstross

            Vivaldi for permanently opened tabs / Mullvad Browser for general browsing.

            Works great, I highly recommend.

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            • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

              @cstross 6.5 GB for an internet browser! How ridiculous!

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              @JustinMac84 Actually it's 1.5Gb for the browser ... and another 5Gb for a sodding local AI model I didn't ask for *which is non-removable and Chrome re-downloads it if you delete it*. Hence nuking the app completely.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                @JustinMac84 Actually it's 1.5Gb for the browser ... and another 5Gb for a sodding local AI model I didn't ask for *which is non-removable and Chrome re-downloads it if you delete it*. Hence nuking the app completely.

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                justinmac84@mastodon.social
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                @cstross At least it's local I guess, but that's an outrageous amount of space for a feature you can't opt out of.

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                  Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                  @cstross I've done the same on Windows. I've switched browsers to Brave for now. Sigh...

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                    @cstross switch to librefox instead of FF.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                      Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                      @cstross you might try those misbehaving sites in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoogled_Chromium ?

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                      • jasonb@sigmoid.socialJ jasonb@sigmoid.social

                        @cstross switch to librefox instead of FF.

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                        @jasonb Stop telling me what to do or I will block you.

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                        • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

                          @cstross At least it's local I guess, but that's an outrageous amount of space for a feature you can't opt out of.

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                          @JustinMac84 @cstross
                          Plus not everyone has extrafast or unlimited bandwidth internet.

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                            Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                            @cstross I've been using FF, Brave, and DuckDuckGo, with occasional tangents into less functional browsers like Mojeek, Swisscows, and Ecosia. What drove you to pick FF exclusively?

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                            • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                              @cstross I've been using FF, Brave, and DuckDuckGo, with occasional tangents into less functional browsers like Mojeek, Swisscows, and Ecosia. What drove you to pick FF exclusively?

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                              @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk I don't use FF exclusively. But I've been on FF since it replaced Mozilla and I've been on Mozilla since it replaced Netscape Navigator, and I switched to NN from NCSA Mosaic circa 1995.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                @cstross

                                I was an early adopter of Chrome. Sad to see it become such garbage. I bailed on it sometime last year and went with Vivaldi.

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                  Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                  @cstross Good for you Charlie. I was at the same point last night (using Vivaldi as main browser) but had doubts. After you‘ve done it, I will join you tonight. Google-free Mac it shall be.

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                    Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

                                    kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @cstross Please consider Vivaldi instead, they are strongly anti Gen AI. Firefox cannot be trusted, Mozilla loves Gen AI and their "killswitch" is a con. For Firefox rendering, I use LibreWolf instead. LibreWolf is also anti Gen AI.

                                    And please check your email and check out https://stopgenai.com

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Welp, it's taken me a few days to get round to it, but I have just now deleted Chrome (and it's associated LLM malware downloads) from ALL my Macs. Fucker was taking up 6.5Gb of space on my Macbook Neo. Utterly unacceptable bullshit on a machine that starts with 256Gb of storage, even if I *wanted* the AI features (I don't).

                                      Took a while because I had to transfer all my extensions and continuously open tabs across into Safari (I mainly use Firefox, but some sites render badly in FF.)

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                                      @cstross question: how did you transfer all your open tabs and extensions? I think that’s what is holding me back…

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                                      • kimcrawley@zeroes.caK kimcrawley@zeroes.ca

                                        @cstross Please consider Vivaldi instead, they are strongly anti Gen AI. Firefox cannot be trusted, Mozilla loves Gen AI and their "killswitch" is a con. For Firefox rendering, I use LibreWolf instead. LibreWolf is also anti Gen AI.

                                        And please check your email and check out https://stopgenai.com

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                                        @kimcrawley I'm considering Waterfox. Big issue is I have a *lot* of open tabs there (FF is my primary browser) on multiple machines. Moving one browser in a day has used up all my spoons.

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                                        • dr_bombay@mstdn.socialD dr_bombay@mstdn.social

                                          @cstross question: how did you transfer all your open tabs and extensions? I think that’s what is holding me back…

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                                          @Dr_Bombay Manually, with some effort!

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