i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
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@whitequark Huh. Were they actually trying to make it work, or trying to show that it's a bad idea to try to use ML for that task?
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@porglezomp there's explanatory text that says the issue with the identifier "found" is that it's rarely used
@whitequark I really love “not changing endl to \n” listed as a style issue when that changes buffer flushing behavior.
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@whitequark I really love “not changing endl to \n” listed as a style issue when that changes buffer flushing behavior.
@porglezomp did you notice that one of the
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@porglezomp did you notice that one of the
Iftokens is capitalized in the output@whitequark hahaha I did not
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@porglezomp you'll love Fig. 6
@whitequark @porglezomp I'm spitting out my drink at j++ → j--. Holy shit.
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i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%
@whitequark you know where there's a ready source of additional words? you surely will not regret sourcing additional words.
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i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%
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Got a link?
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i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%
@whitequark not a paper *deliberately* about genetic algorithms, then?
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i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%
@whitequark "Code style generally does not interfere
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this isn't satire, this is real research published by IEEE/ACM
@whitequark So let me get this straight, IEEE thinks you should count it as a win if rewriting your code by vibing it has less than 15% better odds than a literal coinflip of reproducibility?
edited for clarity and to fix a typo
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this isn't satire, this is real research published by IEEE/ACM
@whitequark @danlyke so … by "reformatted" I assume you mean aesthetically tidied up, with no change in functionality required?
If I got that right: wtf?
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i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%
@whitequark compare and contrast the Extreme Programming philosophy, in which a code change doesn't count as "refactoring" unless all observable behavior is identical
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@whitequark @danlyke so … by "reformatted" I assume you mean aesthetically tidied up, with no change in functionality required?
If I got that right: wtf?
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i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original
the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%
@whitequark And this is how research money is lit on fire, I guess. Why else conduct research into ML for a task that has had obvious, deterministic, efficient and well-tested solutions for decades?
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@porglezomp you'll love Fig. 6
@whitequark @porglezomp This looks like it could join the current crop of "DLSS5 off/DLSS5 on" memes.
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@whitequark compare and contrast the Extreme Programming philosophy, in which a code change doesn't count as "refactoring" unless all observable behavior is identical
@ireneista TIL that my philosophy is the same as the Extreme Programming philosophy
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@whitequark compare and contrast the Extreme Programming philosophy, in which a code change doesn't count as "refactoring" unless all observable behavior is identical
@ireneista i like how it starts with this (left) and ends with "here is a variable we think would be good here. Do you like this" (right)
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@ireneista i like how it starts with this (left) and ends with "here is a variable we think would be good here. Do you like this" (right)
@ireneista starting with "gotofail bad" and ending with making the problem significantly worse, apparently without ever reflecting on this
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@whitequark And this is how research money is lit on fire, I guess. Why else conduct research into ML for a task that has had obvious, deterministic, efficient and well-tested solutions for decades?
@lu_leipzig I actually really don't like formatters like
blackorrustfmtwhich is why I'm collaborating on research into doing it with ML, but there are ways to do it that never produce a different AST
