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  3. i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

    the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

    lumi@snug.moeL porglezomp@mastodon.socialP whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW be_far@social.treehouse.systemsB theartlav@anarres.familyT 39 Replies Last reply
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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

      the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

      lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @whitequark is this satire? this sounds crazy

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      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

        @whitequark is this satire? this sounds crazy

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        @lumi no it's published in the proceedings of IEEE/ACM https://upload.whitequark.org/1774306843-Duetcs_Code_Style_Transfer_through_Generation_and_Retrieval.pdf

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

          the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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          @whitequark i can imagine a few cases where reformatting a code could change behavior (mostly related to language constructs that capture source locations) so I think I would be willing to accept as low as 99.99%

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            @lumi no it's published in the proceedings of IEEE/ACM https://upload.whitequark.org/1774306843-Duetcs_Code_Style_Transfer_through_Generation_and_Retrieval.pdf

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            @whitequark i was more so asking if the paper was satire, but i guess looking at it answers my questions as well ​​

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            • porglezomp@mastodon.socialP porglezomp@mastodon.social

              @whitequark i can imagine a few cases where reformatting a code could change behavior (mostly related to language constructs that capture source locations) so I think I would be willing to accept as low as 99.99%

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              @porglezomp you'll love Fig. 6

              whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW xgranade@wandering.shopX fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF rootkitty@yiff.lifeR mntmn@mastodon.socialM 5 Replies Last reply
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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                this isn't satire, this is real research published by IEEE/ACM

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  @porglezomp you'll love Fig. 6

                  whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @porglezomp there's explanatory text that says the issue with the identifier "found" is that it's rarely used

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                    the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                    @whitequark “surely it just means differing output structure to accommodate the formatting, right?”

                    No, it just produces code that won’t compile. In a refactoring tool.

                    (Haha, didn’t see the post a minute before mine with the exact same snip)

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                      the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                      @whitequark Huh. Were they actually trying to make it work, or trying to show that it's a bad idea to try to use ML for that task?

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                      • theartlav@anarres.familyT theartlav@anarres.family

                        @whitequark Huh. Were they actually trying to make it work, or trying to show that it's a bad idea to try to use ML for that task?

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                        @theartlav former

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @porglezomp there's explanatory text that says the issue with the identifier "found" is that it's rarely used

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                          @whitequark I really love “not changing endl to \n” listed as a style issue when that changes buffer flushing behavior.

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                          • porglezomp@mastodon.socialP porglezomp@mastodon.social

                            @whitequark I really love “not changing endl to \n” listed as a style issue when that changes buffer flushing behavior.

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                            @porglezomp did you notice that one of the If tokens is capitalized in the output

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              @porglezomp did you notice that one of the If tokens is capitalized in the output

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                              @whitequark hahaha I did not

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                @porglezomp you'll love Fig. 6

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                                @whitequark @porglezomp I'm spitting out my drink at j++ ­→ j--. Holy shit.

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                                  the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                                  @whitequark you know where there's a ready source of additional words? you surely will not regret sourcing additional words.

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                                    the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                                    Got a link?
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                                    • matthewcroughan@social.defenestrate.itM matthewcroughan@social.defenestrate.it
                                      Got a link?
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                                      @matthewcroughan https://upload.whitequark.org/1774306843-Duetcs_Code_Style_Transfer_through_Generation_and_Retrieval.pdf

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                                        the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                                        gerardthornley@hachyderm.io
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                                        @whitequark not a paper *deliberately* about genetic algorithms, then?

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          i'm at a loss of words after reading a paper about reformatting code using an ML model that has a measured statistical quantity A_c which says how often the reformatted code behaves the same as the original

                                          the "ideal" (their choice of words) case is 64.2%

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                                          @whitequark "Code style generally does not interfere
                                          with the code semantics and executability"; but we present novel methods for it to do so!

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