the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”

[oldfartrant@mstdn.ca]

@nileane pornography was available when I was a kid, I saw it and that's why I'm gay.

[wyldphyre@mastodon.world]

@nileane They likely wont stop at getting just this in place. Once that is there it's not much more work to say "now verify and enforce”.

[growfediverse@dillyofapickle.com]

@nileane I assume that the push for age verification is because the Orca Bait Class want to know where exactly all our children are so that they can find and harvest them for new Epstein Islands.

[skymtf@blahaj.zone]

@nileane@nileane.fr this bill is also a first step, eventually they will want you to send your ID to a state approved vendor.

[orangelantern@labyrinth.zone]

@nileane also, I hate how techbros seek for a technological solution to every human problem. Just care for your f-ing child, jfc. Stop delegating stuff to the computer just so you won’t be responsible for anything.

[etchedpixels@mastodon.social]

@nileane @david_chisnall 's statement is also wrong. The API exposes exact DoB for children if the API can be called daily as it would be for example with an app long installed on the device. On the day the value changes you know everything. In that sense the API is broken and a privacy fail.

Really it's about liability dumping. Social media companies want to do a cigarette company operation where their products are evil and addictive but it's magically okay as someone else checks you are 18.

[otolithe@mastodon.social]

@nileane @cstross @david_chisnall yeah I love that the “solution” to “ social networks are full of horrible stuff” is not to regulate social networks so that they don’t profit off shoving horrible stuff in everyone’s face, but to make sure only adults are exposed to that shit.

[k@chaos.social]

@nileane More importantly it seems that this would require users to have accounts, even on a home solo-use computer. And for what?

[claudius@darmstadt.social]

@nileane also this is the first step to getost users on board. After that. We're increasing the intensity slowly. Until it is live online verification via state-issued ID tied to whatever you want to do at the time every time.

[nuwagaba2@mastodon.social]

@nileane

Should those who depend on computers also stop complying?

[raven667@hachyderm.io]

@nileane that made me think of a related idea, that the computer should be an agent for the user in the same way that a lawyer or doctor is supposed to act as an agent for the client/patient, even against the power of the state. Thinga like personal encryption facilitate that but identity tattling undermines it. If we really wanted a way to enforce standards for content moderation then having the content labelled so the user agent could filter based on the wishes of the user/owner makes more sense, for the web that could be a standard header in the response that a browser could filter, like the CW in Mastodon.

[coolcalmcollected@mastodon.social]

@PandaChronicle @dalias @nileane

100%

[claudius@darmstadt.social]

@LukefromDC @nileane I hope you are fighting for this *hard* right now, because once legislation is in place, this fight will become almost impossible.

[claudius@darmstadt.social]

@LukefromDC @nileane Yeah, that's just fine. You want privacy only for yourself.

I would much rather prefer privacy for everyone.

Dude, seriously, what the fuck? I get that you're smart. You can defy anything. Very cool indeed. I would much rather not have that kind of society in the first place.

[navi@catcatnya.com]

@batsify @nileane I would much rather not relive this history, because to relive it would mean for me and my peers to fucking die, probably

[revertron@zhub.link]

@nileane No, not the fascism, it's idiocy.