the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
but rather “why the fuck are we trying to verify the age of every single computer user on earth????”
and the answer to that is: fascism
stop. complying.@nileane @cstross @david_chisnall yeah I love that the “solution” to “ social networks are full of horrible stuff” is not to regulate social networks so that they don’t profit off shoving horrible stuff in everyone’s face, but to make sure only adults are exposed to that shit.
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
but rather “why the fuck are we trying to verify the age of every single computer user on earth????”
and the answer to that is: fascism
stop. complying.@nileane More importantly it seems that this would require users to have accounts, even on a home solo-use computer. And for what?
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
but rather “why the fuck are we trying to verify the age of every single computer user on earth????”
and the answer to that is: fascism
stop. complying.@nileane also this is the first step to getost users on board. After that. We're increasing the intensity slowly. Until it is live online verification via state-issued ID tied to whatever you want to do at the time every time.
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
but rather “why the fuck are we trying to verify the age of every single computer user on earth????”
and the answer to that is: fascism
stop. complying.Should those who depend on computers also stop complying?
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
but rather “why the fuck are we trying to verify the age of every single computer user on earth????”
and the answer to that is: fascism
stop. complying.@nileane that made me think of a related idea, that the computer should be an agent for the user in the same way that a lawyer or doctor is supposed to act as an agent for the client/patient, even against the power of the state. Thinga like personal encryption facilitate that but identity tattling undermines it. If we really wanted a way to enforce standards for content moderation then having the content labelled so the user agent could filter based on the wishes of the user/owner makes more sense, for the web that could be a standard header in the response that a browser could filter, like the CW in Mastodon.
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@LukefromDC @nileane I hope you are fighting for this *hard* right now, because once legislation is in place, this fight will become almost impossible.
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@LukefromDC @nileane Yeah, that's just fine. You want privacy only for yourself.
I would much rather prefer privacy for everyone.
Dude, seriously, what the fuck? I get that you're smart. You can defy anything. Very cool indeed. I would much rather not have that kind of society in the first place.
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@nileane If the "why" is not obvious, this civilization must relive its history in order to learn again.
When I see how authoritarian ideas, fascist movements, and the ease with which the media relay snippets of corruption without anyone batting an eye… I tell myself we're getting dangerously close to that point.
It's no longer naivety. It's pure and simple forgetfulness, and history never fails to remind us of that in such circumstances.
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
the question you should be asking yourself is not “what's the best way to verify the age of every single computer user on earth”
but rather “why the fuck are we trying to verify the age of every single computer user on earth????”
and the answer to that is: fascism
stop. complying.@nileane No, not the fascism, it's idiocy.
