Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.
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@Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera am not keeping track, can't tell.
@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?
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@soapdog according to https://frame.work/linux they are sending laptops to something like 22 different distributions
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they were called out for plataforming DHH, then they replied badly. That thread had more info. Is their track record better recently? I am not sure, considering they did send a device to DHH I think they simply don't care that DHH is posting that trans people are not people or that London should be more white.
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@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they were called out for plataforming DHH, then they replied badly. That thread had more info. Is their track record better recently? I am not sure, considering they did send a device to DHH I think they simply don't care that DHH is posting that trans people are not people or that London should be more white.
@soapdog @komali_2 @smilingdemon @alatiera
I pointed out how their track record recently has been better, you said no.
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera some more crumbs if you wanna see https://lobste.rs/c/rate50
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@soapdog @komali_2 @smilingdemon @alatiera
I pointed out how their track record recently has been better, you said no.
@Foxboron @komali_2 @smilingdemon @alatiera sorry, you misunderstood me,I didn't deny they being better, I said I am not keeping track.
I do believe that sending DHH a device is not them doing better though.
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@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera some more crumbs if you wanna see https://lobste.rs/c/rate50
@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Right that's what I mean, that's just the original forum post which mentions a blog post that mentioned omarchy from 2025, I was wondering if there was some new stuff I hadn't seen. I'm all in that forum post, I'm "caleb_rogers" in there
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Right that's what I mean, that's just the original forum post which mentions a blog post that mentioned omarchy from 2025, I was wondering if there was some new stuff I hadn't seen. I'm all in that forum post, I'm "caleb_rogers" in there
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
I replied further in the thread that I don't think that sending DHH a device now is them doing better.
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@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
I replied further in the thread that I don't think that sending DHH a device now is them doing better.
@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera I see, yes I agree, I wish they hadn't, however I understand the structural necessity of capitalist participation leading to them trying to take advantage of omarchy's popularity to push laptop sales.
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@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they were called out for plataforming DHH, then they replied badly. That thread had more info. Is their track record better recently? I am not sure, considering they did send a device to DHH I think they simply don't care that DHH is posting that trans people are not people or that London should be more white.
@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Nirav, the CEO, has explicitly said he supports immigrants and LGBTQ rights, on twitter. Won't link that awful site but a quick search should turn it up.
So imo I wonder to what degree our expectations for framework change since it's a socially conscious company, vs a known-systemic-evil like dell.
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@noodlejetski @soapdog sure they could, I am just clarifying they are not only supporting that particular project as the parent poster mentioned.
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera I see, yes I agree, I wish they hadn't, however I understand the structural necessity of capitalist participation leading to them trying to take advantage of omarchy's popularity to push laptop sales.
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
that is normalising and accepting someone with a large platform that is spewing racist and facist speech. If capitalism trumps their morals, then their morals is shit.
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Nirav, the CEO, has explicitly said he supports immigrants and LGBTQ rights, on twitter. Won't link that awful site but a quick search should turn it up.
So imo I wonder to what degree our expectations for framework change since it's a socially conscious company, vs a known-systemic-evil like dell.
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera well, saying they support queer people while sending a laptop to a transphobic hater is a bit of double speech. I'd be happier if I could see them sending laptops to queer engineers as well.
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@noodlejetski @soapdog sure they could, I am just clarifying they are not only supporting that particular project as the parent poster mentioned.
@tsdgeos @noodlejetski which I agree with you that is better than supporting only that project, but still, I'd rather they didn't platform a fascist.
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@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera well, saying they support queer people while sending a laptop to a transphobic hater is a bit of double speech. I'd be happier if I could see them sending laptops to queer engineers as well.
@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
They send laptops to all the other main distros and DEs, and their 5k/year donation to Arch is functionally a direct payment to the trans community lol. They also donate thousands to debian, cachy, bazzite, nix, the bsds, kde, etc. They don't send any money directly to omarchy, unlike these other DEs and distros.
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
They send laptops to all the other main distros and DEs, and their 5k/year donation to Arch is functionally a direct payment to the trans community lol. They also donate thousands to debian, cachy, bazzite, nix, the bsds, kde, etc. They don't send any money directly to omarchy, unlike these other DEs and distros.
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
I think that is great, really.
But doing that doesn't offload the fact that they are sending devices to an individual who is a known fascist. They could simply not send it. Simple as that. Don't send DHH a device, he can buy a device if he wants it.
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
They send laptops to all the other main distros and DEs, and their 5k/year donation to Arch is functionally a direct payment to the trans community lol. They also donate thousands to debian, cachy, bazzite, nix, the bsds, kde, etc. They don't send any money directly to omarchy, unlike these other DEs and distros.
@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera it's a sad reality but the true reality is they didn't send a laptop to DHH because he's a POS transphobe, they sent a laptop to the Omarchy lead dev because it's a very popular "distro" that for whatever reason all the content creators are focusing on, so a great entry point for new laptop buyers.
Just more sad realities under capitalism.
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@soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera it's a sad reality but the true reality is they didn't send a laptop to DHH because he's a POS transphobe, they sent a laptop to the Omarchy lead dev because it's a very popular "distro" that for whatever reason all the content creators are focusing on, so a great entry point for new laptop buyers.
Just more sad realities under capitalism.
@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera
again, that normalisation of fascism is dangerous.
They can make sure it runs with Omarchy. They don't need to platform DHH, he is a fascist. Being a maintainer doesn't offload that.
Treating fascists well because they happen to be productive fascists is not good enough.
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@komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera well, saying they support queer people while sending a laptop to a transphobic hater is a bit of double speech. I'd be happier if I could see them sending laptops to queer engineers as well.
