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Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

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  • smilingdemon@mastodon.artS smilingdemon@mastodon.art

    @soapdog @alatiera I definitely saw a list of distros within the body of a post somewhere by them which I now can't find at all (just the separate distro partner pre-seading page which is different). It was talking about it being Ubuntu official and then a list of distros they had sent ones to. It didn't include Omarchy, but was strange because it had a bracket's after Arch with something along the lines of "sending in progress". I now can't find that anywhere at all in the blog posts.

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    @soapdog @alatiera I suspect the distro partner page has stayed the same (tbh I forgot about it) and Omarchy would have been on there given they had sent them preview versions of previous 13 mainboards and upgrades.

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    • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

      Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

      Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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      @alatiera urgh.....
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      • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

        Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

        Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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        @alatiera for a "big tent" approqch they seem to be really focused on a specific part of the tent.

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        • smilingdemon@mastodon.artS smilingdemon@mastodon.art

          @soapdog @alatiera they do send out to other distros, and given Ormachy wasn't on the list they said they had sent pre-relase laptops too. I therefore suspect they had intended for this to go under the radar which is even worse. Not only have they not actually listened, the lesson they seem to have learned is "just don't let people know". It's all so sad and frustrating and oh so easily avoidable by Framework.

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          @smilingdemon @soapdog @alatiera

          I think this is fine. It would be more egregious if they spent time promoting fashOS instead of any the dozen of serious distros and projects.

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          • foxboron@chaos.socialF foxboron@chaos.social

            @smilingdemon @soapdog @alatiera

            I think this is fine. It would be more egregious if they spent time promoting fashOS instead of any the dozen of serious distros and projects.

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            @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they do spend a lot of time promoting omarchy

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            • soapdog@toot.cafeS soapdog@toot.cafe

              @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they do spend a lot of time promoting omarchy

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              @soapdog @smilingdemon @alatiera

              They did at least. When was the last time they promoted omarchy?

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              • foxboron@chaos.socialF foxboron@chaos.social

                @soapdog @smilingdemon @alatiera

                They did at least. When was the last time they promoted omarchy?

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                @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera am not keeping track, can't tell.

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                • soapdog@toot.cafeS soapdog@toot.cafe

                  @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera am not keeping track, can't tell.

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                  @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?

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                  • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                    @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?

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                    @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera check this thread https://community.frame.work/t/a-more-ethical-framework-competitor/76151/18

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                    • tsdgeos@fosstodon.orgT tsdgeos@fosstodon.org

                      @soapdog according to https://frame.work/linux they are sending laptops to something like 22 different distributions

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                      @tsdgeos @soapdog and they could've easily limited it to the 21 whose lead maintainers don't post about how there's too many non-white people in the UK

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                      • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                        @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?

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                        @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they were called out for plataforming DHH, then they replied badly. That thread had more info. Is their track record better recently? I am not sure, considering they did send a device to DHH I think they simply don't care that DHH is posting that trans people are not people or that London should be more white.

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                        • soapdog@toot.cafeS soapdog@toot.cafe

                          @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they were called out for plataforming DHH, then they replied badly. That thread had more info. Is their track record better recently? I am not sure, considering they did send a device to DHH I think they simply don't care that DHH is posting that trans people are not people or that London should be more white.

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                          @soapdog @komali_2 @smilingdemon @alatiera

                          I pointed out how their track record recently has been better, you said no.

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                          • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                            @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera So, when you said, "they spend a lot of time promoting omarchy," to what were you referring?

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                            @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera some more crumbs if you wanna see https://lobste.rs/c/rate50

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                            • foxboron@chaos.socialF foxboron@chaos.social

                              @soapdog @komali_2 @smilingdemon @alatiera

                              I pointed out how their track record recently has been better, you said no.

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                              @Foxboron @komali_2 @smilingdemon @alatiera sorry, you misunderstood me,I didn't deny they being better, I said I am not keeping track.

                              I do believe that sending DHH a device is not them doing better though.

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                              • soapdog@toot.cafeS soapdog@toot.cafe

                                @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera some more crumbs if you wanna see https://lobste.rs/c/rate50

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                                @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Right that's what I mean, that's just the original forum post which mentions a blog post that mentioned omarchy from 2025, I was wondering if there was some new stuff I hadn't seen. I'm all in that forum post, I'm "caleb_rogers" in there

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                                • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                                  @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Right that's what I mean, that's just the original forum post which mentions a blog post that mentioned omarchy from 2025, I was wondering if there was some new stuff I hadn't seen. I'm all in that forum post, I'm "caleb_rogers" in there

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                                  @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera

                                  I replied further in the thread that I don't think that sending DHH a device now is them doing better.

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                                    @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera

                                    I replied further in the thread that I don't think that sending DHH a device now is them doing better.

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                                    @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera I see, yes I agree, I wish they hadn't, however I understand the structural necessity of capitalist participation leading to them trying to take advantage of omarchy's popularity to push laptop sales.

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                                    • soapdog@toot.cafeS soapdog@toot.cafe

                                      @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera they were called out for plataforming DHH, then they replied badly. That thread had more info. Is their track record better recently? I am not sure, considering they did send a device to DHH I think they simply don't care that DHH is posting that trans people are not people or that London should be more white.

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                                      @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera Nirav, the CEO, has explicitly said he supports immigrants and LGBTQ rights, on twitter. Won't link that awful site but a quick search should turn it up.

                                      So imo I wonder to what degree our expectations for framework change since it's a socially conscious company, vs a known-systemic-evil like dell.

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                                      • noodlejetski@masto.aiN noodlejetski@masto.ai

                                        @tsdgeos @soapdog and they could've easily limited it to the 21 whose lead maintainers don't post about how there's too many non-white people in the UK

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                                        @noodlejetski @soapdog sure they could, I am just clarifying they are not only supporting that particular project as the parent poster mentioned.

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                                        • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                                          @soapdog @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera I see, yes I agree, I wish they hadn't, however I understand the structural necessity of capitalist participation leading to them trying to take advantage of omarchy's popularity to push laptop sales.

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                                          @komali_2 @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera

                                          that is normalising and accepting someone with a large platform that is spewing racist and facist speech. If capitalism trumps their morals, then their morals is shit.

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