There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
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@FreakyFwoof yeah I ninja edited, I typo'd 10
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog Feels like MS is jealous of how frequent Apple users upgrade, or at least, say how often they upgrade.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog Nerd Policing Unit
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog It’s like they’re begging people to ditch Windows. It’s been all downhill since Windows 2000.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog will anyone even be able to afford a PC or laptop in 2027/28? Memory and storage prices being what they are.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog Ubuntu 25.10 is security wise very interesing secureboot, sudo-rs etc. Gnome Wayland only. I think for beginners that might be good beginning later I would recommend Fedora Desktop version. Has SELinux etc. more secure.

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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog The most reputable source I've seen on this, PC World, says the evidence suggests NPU will be necessary for full functionality, not necessary full stop.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog I mean, imho the issue wasn't win 11 requiring TPM and such. I can completely understand the will to draw a line, after which you have a guaranteed baseline, drop some legacy stuff, etc
The issue is the sunset of win10 ; which has the causes and consequences you describe.
If they had kept win10 around for, say, 5-10 more years at least, it would've been fine imho.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog You forgot the part that Windows 12 will be subscription based, so monthly fee for having a privilege to have spyware and ads on your PC
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@GossiTheDog The most reputable source I've seen on this, PC World, says the evidence suggests NPU will be necessary for full functionality, not necessary full stop.
@willegible I guess they'll be back to the Windows "S" versions, and they'll try to sell the OS upgrades the whole time. This is, if people are able to afford a new PC in 2027/2028.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog Windows is already dead to me. None of my home devices have run it in 2 years. And this is coming from someone who used to love Windows, I was in the Insider program when 10 first launched.
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@GossiTheDog The most reputable source I've seen on this, PC World, says the evidence suggests NPU will be necessary for full functionality, not necessary full stop.
@willegible @GossiTheDog will I still be able to run Notepad though?


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@GossiTheDog I mean, imho the issue wasn't win 11 requiring TPM and such. I can completely understand the will to draw a line, after which you have a guaranteed baseline, drop some legacy stuff, etc
The issue is the sunset of win10 ; which has the causes and consequences you describe.
If they had kept win10 around for, say, 5-10 more years at least, it would've been fine imho.
@toadjaune @GossiTheDog the TPM wasn't a serious requirement. Security in Windows servers are more important, and they don't require TPM or any server equivalent to upgrade Windows server.
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog
I've already decided to migrate to Linux for my home use. -
There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog I don't remember it saying NPU but the 26H1 update will only be available on some ARM chips. (like the copilot laptops)
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@GossiTheDog I don't remember it saying NPU but the 26H1 update will only be available on some ARM chips. (like the copilot laptops)
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There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog \o/ (i do hope that microsoft make that move, so that we can seriously work on alternatives solutions ^^ )
(by seriously, i mean in my personnal work context with public autorities in France) -
There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.
Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.
Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.
@GossiTheDog Linux or MacOS, never had MS above DOS core