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  3. There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

    Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

    Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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    @GossiTheDog

    NPU = AI Slop

    MicroSlop 🫩

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

      Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

      Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

      toadjaune@hostux.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @GossiTheDog I mean, imho the issue wasn't win 11 requiring TPM and such. I can completely understand the will to draw a line, after which you have a guaranteed baseline, drop some legacy stuff, etc

      The issue is the sunset of win10 ; which has the causes and consequences you describe.

      If they had kept win10 around for, say, 5-10 more years at least, it would've been fine imho.

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

        Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

        Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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        @GossiTheDog You forgot the part that Windows 12 will be subscription based, so monthly fee for having a privilege to have spyware and ads on your PC

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        • willegible@mastodon.ieW willegible@mastodon.ie

          @GossiTheDog The most reputable source I've seen on this, PC World, says the evidence suggests NPU will be necessary for full functionality, not necessary full stop.

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          @willegible I guess they'll be back to the Windows "S" versions, and they'll try to sell the OS upgrades the whole time. This is, if people are able to afford a new PC in 2027/2028.
          @GossiTheDog

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

            Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

            Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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            @GossiTheDog Windows is already dead to me. None of my home devices have run it in 2 years. And this is coming from someone who used to love Windows, I was in the Insider program when 10 first launched.

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            • willegible@mastodon.ieW willegible@mastodon.ie

              @GossiTheDog The most reputable source I've seen on this, PC World, says the evidence suggests NPU will be necessary for full functionality, not necessary full stop.

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              @willegible @GossiTheDog will I still be able to run Notepad though? 😂🙄

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              • toadjaune@hostux.socialT toadjaune@hostux.social

                @GossiTheDog I mean, imho the issue wasn't win 11 requiring TPM and such. I can completely understand the will to draw a line, after which you have a guaranteed baseline, drop some legacy stuff, etc

                The issue is the sunset of win10 ; which has the causes and consequences you describe.

                If they had kept win10 around for, say, 5-10 more years at least, it would've been fine imho.

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                @toadjaune @GossiTheDog the TPM wasn't a serious requirement. Security in Windows servers are more important, and they don't require TPM or any server equivalent to upgrade Windows server.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                  Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                  Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                  #16

                  @GossiTheDog
                  I've already decided to migrate to Linux for my home use.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                    Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                    Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                    @GossiTheDog I don't remember it saying NPU but the 26H1 update will only be available on some ARM chips. (like the copilot laptops)

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                    • spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange

                      @GossiTheDog I don't remember it saying NPU but the 26H1 update will only be available on some ARM chips. (like the copilot laptops)

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                      @GossiTheDog oops forgot the link https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/what-to-know-about-windows-11-version-26h1/4491941

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                        Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                        Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                        @GossiTheDog \o/ (i do hope that microsoft make that move, so that we can seriously work on alternatives solutions ^^ )
                        (by seriously, i mean in my personnal work context with public autorities in France)

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                          Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                          Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                          @GossiTheDog Linux or MacOS, never had MS above DOS core

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                          • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                            @GossiTheDog
                            I've already decided to migrate to Linux for my home use.

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                            @mloxton @GossiTheDog That's my project once my school year ends.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              @FreakyFwoof yeah I ninja edited, I typo'd 10

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                              @GossiTheDog @FreakyFwoof This is one reason I was holding off buying any new machines at the moment. I really hope MS require this for an optional AI feature but I'm not buying anything now until we know minimum specs for sure. I was hoping my next machine was ARM based anyway.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                                Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                                Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                                @GossiTheDog looks like a great time to short Microsoft stock.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                                  Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                                  Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  The tech bro oligarchs must be stopped.

                                  These monopolists/cartels believe #enshitification is a divine right that demands feudal obedience from the powerless masses that owe them fealty and gratitude.

                                  I don't understand why people put up with it

                                  #ubuntu #linux

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                                    Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                                    Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

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                                    @GossiTheDog isn’t Windows 11 26H1 not the precursor to this?

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      There's a bunch of media reporting - I don't know how accurate - that Windows 12 will require an NPU (a fake AI chip basically), which almost no PCs have, amongst other stupid features.

                                      Requiring TPM in Windows 11 was stupid and created PC landfill during an economic, global and ecological crisis, to drive hardware profit margins and Microsoft Surface sales.

                                      Requiring NPUs would do the same, during an additional cost of living crisis. If Microsoft go ahead with that, it's time to swap OS.

                                      mark@canuck.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @GossiTheDog I find it hard to believe so many people still use Microslop at all. As an enterprise user their software is garbage (endless broken promises and delayed roadmaps on critical infrastructure IDS software, for example) but at least it's expensive. Teams is a dumpster fire (but it's 30% vibe coded, YAY!) serious, Nadella should be fired and that's only the start. But yeah, anyway, use Linux, it's been desktop-daily-driverable for years now. PopOS! is quite normie friendly..

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