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Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

    What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

    All while talking to each other?

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    @futurebird (More seriously).

    I think there's already something similar -- not interactive with another person, but with "augmented reality" overlays of complex objects -- used in places like aircraft repair & maintenance. You get to see all the steps needed to replace a part without having to look aside to read a manual.

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    • 5cifigirl@starbase80.wtf5 5cifigirl@starbase80.wtf

      @futurebird

      What came on my radio* right after I read this post:

      🎶
      I said "Be careful, his bowtie is really a camera"
      🎶

      🤔

      *"my radio" is @somafm Folk Forward. 😎

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      @5ciFiGirl @somafm

      Not so funny anymore. More like something you'd say to your date on the bus as a sober warning.

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      • lilithian@pagan.plusL lilithian@pagan.plus

        @futurebird why would you have sex with these on

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        @futurebird@sauropods.win @lilithian@pagan.plus the better question is how, I know I’d never sleep or be able to take some seriously when sleeping with them if they had them on

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

          What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

          All while talking to each other?

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          @futurebird ugh I attended a webinar demo for this and I can't remember the name of the company that does em

          They're AR glasses for manufacturing and one of the use cases was, you need to do on the job training somewhere remote, like an offshore drilling platform, and you need to show the trainee which valves to turn

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            @secretsloth

            Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

            It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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            @futurebird yeah I absolutely agree and it makes me never want to leave the house because I hate it the idea of being secretly recorded. Like I understand big tech wanting to create a surveillance state because they're awful? But having been stalked, the idea makes me literally queasy. It could divulge my exact location to my stalker in real time at any point without my knowledge, something I have been very careful to avoid (I don't post my face ANYWHERE and haven't for close to 20 years).

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            • secretsloth@mastodon.artS secretsloth@mastodon.art

              @futurebird yeah I absolutely agree and it makes me never want to leave the house because I hate it the idea of being secretly recorded. Like I understand big tech wanting to create a surveillance state because they're awful? But having been stalked, the idea makes me literally queasy. It could divulge my exact location to my stalker in real time at any point without my knowledge, something I have been very careful to avoid (I don't post my face ANYWHERE and haven't for close to 20 years).

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              @futurebird and worse, this is a bigger nightmare for anyone in a similar situation who has a more recent/public online presence with their real name attached, which I'm betting is most people. As gross as it is for everyone, I'm actually horrified for the real world implications of folks who are trying not to be found, not just by law enforcement but by folks who have been looking for them for other reasons. 😞 it hurts my heart that we all have to be afraid again.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

                What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

                All while talking to each other?

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                @futurebird As a visual learner, this would be fabulous. And think of all the kids with similar minds who would be able to learn how to do sports (and other stuff, but that's my weakness) much more easily.

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                • secretsloth@mastodon.artS secretsloth@mastodon.art

                  @futurebird yeah I absolutely agree and it makes me never want to leave the house because I hate it the idea of being secretly recorded. Like I understand big tech wanting to create a surveillance state because they're awful? But having been stalked, the idea makes me literally queasy. It could divulge my exact location to my stalker in real time at any point without my knowledge, something I have been very careful to avoid (I don't post my face ANYWHERE and haven't for close to 20 years).

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                  @secretsloth

                  That sounds incredibly stressful.

                  The only thing I find any comfort in is this news that they need people to review the footage to make the damn things work proves that their scanning and searching and identification software isn't nearly as god-like as they want us to think it to be.

                  Processing video remains rather hard, expensive, but we act like it's a solved problem.

                  It's not.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @secretsloth

                    That sounds incredibly stressful.

                    The only thing I find any comfort in is this news that they need people to review the footage to make the damn things work proves that their scanning and searching and identification software isn't nearly as god-like as they want us to think it to be.

                    Processing video remains rather hard, expensive, but we act like it's a solved problem.

                    It's not.

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                    @futurebird yeah. I am a bit comforted by the fact that my old photos are yknow 20 years old. Mostly it's newer situations and others that I'm concerned for, all of this rushing of stuff made by *white men* that is not being vetted for safety and quickly proves dangerous for nonwhite folks, exes in general, gender nonconforming folks, women, basically anyone who has made an entitled person mad, too many groups to count. It's foreseeable. And keeps not being stopped. Or even delayed.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @secretsloth

                      Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

                      It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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                      myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                      Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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                      @futurebird @secretsloth

                      Nausea from Regressive Progress

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                      • i_give_u_worms@beige.partyI i_give_u_worms@beige.party

                        @futurebird @secretsloth

                        Nausea from Regressive Progress

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                        @futurebird @secretsloth

                        I feel like what's going on here is they hate paying and training employees so much they are willing to abuse the customer

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          @secretsloth

                          Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

                          It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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                          myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                          Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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                          @futurebird @secretsloth

                          SOOOOOO much this.
                          I think it’s part patriarchy tech bro capitalism culture eliminating creative voices that aren’t seeking profit over the actual product and idea, and consumer happiness.
                          They don’t care about the end result at all.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            @5ciFiGirl @somafm

                            Not so funny anymore. More like something you'd say to your date on the bus as a sober warning.

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                            @futurebird
                            I wonder why “glassholes” got laughed out of the house a couple years ago but not this new crop? Metahole just doesn’t have a ring to it.

                            @5ciFiGirl @somafm

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              @secretsloth

                              The glasses could be the same color and have other indications how they are linked. So it's obvious that when you have them on the person helping you could see what you see and talk you through it while showing you exactly how it's done.

                              It could be a really useful teaching and assistive technology.

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                              @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

                                Wealthy people once lived with vast staffs who cooked and cleaned for them, and who often knew intimate details of the lives of the powerful.

                                Now we have found a way for the rich to outsource ... thinking. Off-load mental work to minds half way around the world. We are suppose to pretend AI is doing this work.

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                                ICO writes to Meta over 'concerning' AI smart glasses report

                                Videos, including of glasses-wearers using the toilet or having sex, are sometimes reviewed by a Kenya-based subcontractor.

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                                (www.bbc.com)

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                                @futurebird

                                Epstein eyewear

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  @secretsloth

                                  Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

                                  It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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                                  myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                                  Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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                                  @futurebird @secretsloth This is actually an improvement!!
                                  Twenty years ago, I had to deal with a customer service that was SAVING MONEY by hiring just any random high schooler.
                                  Bad. Not only didn't understand the problem, but "solved" it by doing something random, "Thank you, sir", and hanging up.
                                  Went through that at least three times before reaching the last actual person on staff. They looked at the log and started laughing.

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                                  • lilithian@pagan.plusL lilithian@pagan.plus

                                    @futurebird why would you have sex with these on

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                                    @lilithian @futurebird is it possible they can continue recording after taking them off? Where do you set your glasses down in a bedroom?
                                    So is it possible some of these cases weren't even purposeful?

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                                    • cubeofcheese@mstdn.socialC cubeofcheese@mstdn.social

                                      @lilithian @futurebird is it possible they can continue recording after taking them off? Where do you set your glasses down in a bedroom?
                                      So is it possible some of these cases weren't even purposeful?

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                                      @cubeofcheese @lilithian

                                      " is it possible they can continue recording after taking them off? "

                                      Yes they outline one such case in the article I think.

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                                      • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                        @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                                        @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth That seems like a genuinely cool use of technology that is probably quite feasible to do WELL now and also likely would be appreciated by actual people in those jobs (easier than context switching to look at a maintenance log on some other screen or whatever). But also one that you REALLY can't use an LLM for because getting it wrong even a little could be disastrous.

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                                        • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                          @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                                          @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth That was why I was tempted to put a preorder on LaForge glasses. Of course, they turned out to be vaporware.

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