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Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

    What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

    All while talking to each other?

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    @futurebird i suspect that this will be possible when this technology is reproducible without needing any kind of license and can be developed on libre software made trustworthy. the complexity is location and body tracking, so it'd be simpler to just generate the wireframe body in front of the viewer and let them see how the task is done

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @lilithian

      I think we know why in some cases. It's a power thing in a way. A kind of exhibitionism.

      Also they may save the video for later.

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      @futurebird spyware sex glasses is a special kind of post-2020 idea. either way this entire situation is abhorrent

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        @secretsloth

        The glasses could be the same color and have other indications how they are linked. So it's obvious that when you have them on the person helping you could see what you see and talk you through it while showing you exactly how it's done.

        It could be a really useful teaching and assistive technology.

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        @secretsloth

        Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

        It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

          Wealthy people once lived with vast staffs who cooked and cleaned for them, and who often knew intimate details of the lives of the powerful.

          Now we have found a way for the rich to outsource ... thinking. Off-load mental work to minds half way around the world. We are suppose to pretend AI is doing this work.

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          ICO writes to Meta over 'concerning' AI smart glasses report

          Videos, including of glasses-wearers using the toilet or having sex, are sometimes reviewed by a Kenya-based subcontractor.

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          @futurebird no, I thought Canvas had thoroughly monopolized all the underpaid overworked workers of Nairobi in its surveillance of US, CA, and EU students. Kind of impressed there are some left over for meta's raybans.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

            Wealthy people once lived with vast staffs who cooked and cleaned for them, and who often knew intimate details of the lives of the powerful.

            Now we have found a way for the rich to outsource ... thinking. Off-load mental work to minds half way around the world. We are suppose to pretend AI is doing this work.

            Link Preview Image
            ICO writes to Meta over 'concerning' AI smart glasses report

            Videos, including of glasses-wearers using the toilet or having sex, are sometimes reviewed by a Kenya-based subcontractor.

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            (www.bbc.com)

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            @futurebird

            What came on my radio* right after I read this post:

            🎶
            I said "Be careful, his bowtie is really a camera"
            🎶

            🤔

            *"my radio" is @somafm Folk Forward. 😎

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

              What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

              All while talking to each other?

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              @futurebird I have a pair of glasses that allow me to see things further away than a foot in front of my face. It's marvellous technology, and I wear them all the time.

              What's even better is that they work completely off-line, and I don't have any concerns about privacy or security.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

                What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

                All while talking to each other?

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                @futurebird (More seriously).

                I think there's already something similar -- not interactive with another person, but with "augmented reality" overlays of complex objects -- used in places like aircraft repair & maintenance. You get to see all the steps needed to replace a part without having to look aside to read a manual.

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                  @futurebird

                  What came on my radio* right after I read this post:

                  🎶
                  I said "Be careful, his bowtie is really a camera"
                  🎶

                  🤔

                  *"my radio" is @somafm Folk Forward. 😎

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                  @5ciFiGirl @somafm

                  Not so funny anymore. More like something you'd say to your date on the bus as a sober warning.

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                  • lilithian@pagan.plusL lilithian@pagan.plus

                    @futurebird why would you have sex with these on

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                    @futurebird@sauropods.win @lilithian@pagan.plus the better question is how, I know I’d never sleep or be able to take some seriously when sleeping with them if they had them on

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

                      What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

                      All while talking to each other?

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                      @futurebird ugh I attended a webinar demo for this and I can't remember the name of the company that does em

                      They're AR glasses for manufacturing and one of the use cases was, you need to do on the job training somewhere remote, like an offshore drilling platform, and you need to show the trainee which valves to turn

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        @secretsloth

                        Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

                        It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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                        Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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                        @futurebird yeah I absolutely agree and it makes me never want to leave the house because I hate it the idea of being secretly recorded. Like I understand big tech wanting to create a surveillance state because they're awful? But having been stalked, the idea makes me literally queasy. It could divulge my exact location to my stalker in real time at any point without my knowledge, something I have been very careful to avoid (I don't post my face ANYWHERE and haven't for close to 20 years).

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                        • secretsloth@mastodon.artS secretsloth@mastodon.art

                          @futurebird yeah I absolutely agree and it makes me never want to leave the house because I hate it the idea of being secretly recorded. Like I understand big tech wanting to create a surveillance state because they're awful? But having been stalked, the idea makes me literally queasy. It could divulge my exact location to my stalker in real time at any point without my knowledge, something I have been very careful to avoid (I don't post my face ANYWHERE and haven't for close to 20 years).

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                          @futurebird and worse, this is a bigger nightmare for anyone in a similar situation who has a more recent/public online presence with their real name attached, which I'm betting is most people. As gross as it is for everyone, I'm actually horrified for the real world implications of folks who are trying not to be found, not just by law enforcement but by folks who have been looking for them for other reasons. 😞 it hurts my heart that we all have to be afraid again.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            I can't help but think about how this tech might be used in better ways. What if instead of secretly sending the video off so that some person making next to nothing can identify the milk carton in the fridge or your brand of underwear...

                            What about a pair of glasses that were paired that would let you show someone how to do a task by projecting a wire-frame of your body in the same orientation as yours over theirs?

                            All while talking to each other?

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                            @futurebird As a visual learner, this would be fabulous. And think of all the kids with similar minds who would be able to learn how to do sports (and other stuff, but that's my weakness) much more easily.

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                              @futurebird yeah I absolutely agree and it makes me never want to leave the house because I hate it the idea of being secretly recorded. Like I understand big tech wanting to create a surveillance state because they're awful? But having been stalked, the idea makes me literally queasy. It could divulge my exact location to my stalker in real time at any point without my knowledge, something I have been very careful to avoid (I don't post my face ANYWHERE and haven't for close to 20 years).

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                              @secretsloth

                              That sounds incredibly stressful.

                              The only thing I find any comfort in is this news that they need people to review the footage to make the damn things work proves that their scanning and searching and identification software isn't nearly as god-like as they want us to think it to be.

                              Processing video remains rather hard, expensive, but we act like it's a solved problem.

                              It's not.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                @secretsloth

                                That sounds incredibly stressful.

                                The only thing I find any comfort in is this news that they need people to review the footage to make the damn things work proves that their scanning and searching and identification software isn't nearly as god-like as they want us to think it to be.

                                Processing video remains rather hard, expensive, but we act like it's a solved problem.

                                It's not.

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                                @futurebird yeah. I am a bit comforted by the fact that my old photos are yknow 20 years old. Mostly it's newer situations and others that I'm concerned for, all of this rushing of stuff made by *white men* that is not being vetted for safety and quickly proves dangerous for nonwhite folks, exes in general, gender nonconforming folks, women, basically anyone who has made an entitled person mad, too many groups to count. It's foreseeable. And keeps not being stopped. Or even delayed.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  @secretsloth

                                  Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

                                  It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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                                  myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                                  Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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                                  @futurebird @secretsloth

                                  Nausea from Regressive Progress

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                                    @futurebird @secretsloth

                                    Nausea from Regressive Progress

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                                    @futurebird @secretsloth

                                    I feel like what's going on here is they hate paying and training employees so much they are willing to abuse the customer

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      @secretsloth

                                      Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

                                      It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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                                      myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                                      Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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                                      @futurebird @secretsloth

                                      SOOOOOO much this.
                                      I think it’s part patriarchy tech bro capitalism culture eliminating creative voices that aren’t seeking profit over the actual product and idea, and consumer happiness.
                                      They don’t care about the end result at all.

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                                        @5ciFiGirl @somafm

                                        Not so funny anymore. More like something you'd say to your date on the bus as a sober warning.

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                                        @futurebird
                                        I wonder why “glassholes” got laughed out of the house a couple years ago but not this new crop? Metahole just doesn’t have a ring to it.

                                        @5ciFiGirl @somafm

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          @secretsloth

                                          The glasses could be the same color and have other indications how they are linked. So it's obvious that when you have them on the person helping you could see what you see and talk you through it while showing you exactly how it's done.

                                          It could be a really useful teaching and assistive technology.

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                                          @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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