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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

    New borders:
    None

    Borders already crossed:
    Russin 🇨🇭 - Pougny-Chancy 🇫🇷

    Today starts with a scenic detour en route to Paris – from Ravières via Dijon and Culmont Chalindrey onto the old main line through Troyes to Paris Est. Then an event at the Assemblée Nationale in Paris, and finally a TGV Lyria to Genève.

    Today's routes on the routes map:
    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/47.519056/4.229736

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

      New borders:
      None

      Borders already crossed:
      Russin 🇨🇭 - Pougny-Chancy 🇫🇷

      Today starts with a scenic detour en route to Paris – from Ravières via Dijon and Culmont Chalindrey onto the old main line through Troyes to Paris Est. Then an event at the Assemblée Nationale in Paris, and finally a TGV Lyria to Genève.

      Today's routes on the routes map:
      https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/47.519056/4.229736

      jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      And we have #CrossBorderRail videos too 😀

      Here’s today’s intro

      https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/2PdjqYH4PmrhYWpUCRxkTS

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        And we have #CrossBorderRail videos too 😀

        Here’s today’s intro

        https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/2PdjqYH4PmrhYWpUCRxkTS

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        And Nuits-sous-Ravières has a LCD screen for train times

        Revolution!

        Ok, it doesn’t show the right info (yet?) - but it’s a start

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          And Nuits-sous-Ravières has a LCD screen for train times

          Revolution!

          Ok, it doesn’t show the right info (yet?) - but it’s a start

          Link Preview Image
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          #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 5 of 80
          TER 91371
          06:39 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Dijon Ville 07:28
          SNCF for TER Mobigo

          Train type: Bombardier AGC Bi-mode MU, 4 short carriages
          ⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
          🚲: ✅
          🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
          🛜: ⛔️
          🍽️: ⛔️
          🧳: 🙂
          🧽: 😐 (grimy, worn inside)
          Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 5 of 80
            TER 91371
            06:39 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Dijon Ville 07:28
            SNCF for TER Mobigo

            Train type: Bombardier AGC Bi-mode MU, 4 short carriages
            ⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
            🚲: ✅
            🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
            🛜: ⛔️
            🍽️: ⛔️
            🧳: 🙂
            🧽: 😐 (grimy, worn inside)
            Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

            Link Preview Image
            jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            TER 91371
            06:39 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Dijon Ville 07:28

            Distance: 89.3km
            Average speed: 109km/h

            3 stops:
            Montbard
            Les Laumes-Alésia
            Dijon Ville

            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#11/47.525547/4.619064

            #CrossBorderRail

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @pglux.bsky.social that they *moved to a new location* 🤯

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                TER 91371
                06:39 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Dijon Ville 07:28

                Distance: 89.3km
                Average speed: 109km/h

                3 stops:
                Montbard
                Les Laumes-Alésia
                Dijon Ville

                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#11/47.525547/4.619064

                #CrossBorderRail

                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                My train after this one is listed as a compulsory reservation TER

                It has a 47 mins total trip, Dijon to Culmont Chalindrey with 1 stop en route

                I’m semi sure this is a data error and it’s not comp res. But we’ll see

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @pglux.bsky.social no. I refused to pay €20. So I’ll take a premium TER via Chaumont instead!

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                    @pglux.bsky.social Right. But Coradia Liner is ok in 1st class.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      My train after this one is listed as a compulsory reservation TER

                      It has a 47 mins total trip, Dijon to Culmont Chalindrey with 1 stop en route

                      I’m semi sure this is a data error and it’s not comp res. But we’ll see

                      jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

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                        Also Dijon - Culmont-Chalindrey train times 🫣

                        Basically un-useable

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                          @pglux.bsky.social no. That guy is doing works. He’s not normally there. But yes, they installed new lighting. But the underpass still has a drainage problem and most of the platforms are full of holes.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Also Dijon - Culmont-Chalindrey train times 🫣

                            Basically un-useable

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                            🤯

                            So @12train makes it clear

                            The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

                            AAAAGGGGHHHHH

                            It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              🤯

                              So @12train makes it clear

                              The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

                              AAAAGGGGHHHHH

                              It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

                              jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                              If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                              If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                              It’s the same station

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                                If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                                If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                                It’s the same station

                                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                                You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  SNCF Connect can’t help me work out if it’s compulsory reservation. By now I think it just assumes everyone thinks everything is.

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                                  @jon "You can board up to 2 minutes before departure" -- on a regional train!?

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                                    You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

                                    smveerman@zug.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jon It's a data failure. The 8:19 from Dijon to Culmont-Chalindrey is not reservation required, other trains from Culmont-Chalindrey are for the section Nogent-sur-Seine - Paris.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                                      You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

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                                      @jon I,m reading about this COMPULSORY RESERVATION. What is the idea behind this? Making more money or protecting something? I really don't understand this. Why not on all trains if it is important. Why this bullying off the travelers?

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                                        Also how Dijon shows in @12train 🤬

                                        If TER Fluo (ie Grand Est) operates the train: Dijon Ville

                                        If TER Mobigo (ie Bourgogne Franche Comté) operates it: Dijon

                                        It’s the same station

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                                        @jon @12train get the same with Edinburgh where some systems say "Edinburgh", others "Edinburgh (Waverley)", and I'm sure I've seen "Edinburgh (City Centre)" all refer to the same station. In my quick look at some apps it looks like the city centre variant isn't showing any more, but not all include the Waverley.

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                                        • smsm1@mastodon.greenS smsm1@mastodon.green

                                          @jon @12train get the same with Edinburgh where some systems say "Edinburgh", others "Edinburgh (Waverley)", and I'm sure I've seen "Edinburgh (City Centre)" all refer to the same station. In my quick look at some apps it looks like the city centre variant isn't showing any more, but not all include the Waverley.

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                                          @jon @12train oh, the issue is with Djon is within the same app and journey plan results list. Ok that's a lot worse that the Edinburgh issue which is at least consistent within each app.

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