Subject: Autistic ‘black and white’ thinking.
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@murdoc @dedicto @KatyElphinstone @autistics I.... think a lot about Dr Asperger, Hitler, and his people, who took pre-existing sciences and pseudosciences on personality "disorders" and hammered them into the shape of modern "aspergers" or "autism", which was of course then used to determine who lived(curious, quirky) and who died (incompatible with aryan society, too troublesome, wont listen to parents).
I think about this often, and I note: most of us arent objectively "disordered"....
@milkman76 @dedicto @KatyElphinstone @autistics
Yes, but then I wonder, why would we adopt these views? I mean, I get why we adopted their research on rocketry and stuff, but psychology? We didn't buy into their views on racial superiority, so why this? Unless...
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I think our bones are right.
In fact, I think embracing a reasoning style based on data, patterns, and probability could be a huge bonus for everyone.
As – objectively speaking – it could pave the road for authenticity, equity, and justice to replace former murkiness, power plays, and empty promises.
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@KatyElphinstone
First of all, as others have said, great thread. I'm saving it too.
Second, it got me thinking a number of things, so I'll just skip to the end: Since we seem to be born with this preference for data, analysis, logic, etc., while the allistics seem content with learning from others about the world and then just sticking with that, could the fundamental difference between us be just or largely a built-in epistemological preference? Or would there be something even deeper and this preference is just a result?
Third: "In fact, I think embracing a reasoning style based on data, patterns, and probability could be a huge bonus for everyone."
Basically the point of my #OSES project, which I am making good progress on. I'm going to be making a post about it in the next couple of days.
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@milkman76 @dedicto @KatyElphinstone @autistics
Yes, but then I wonder, why would we adopt these views? I mean, I get why we adopted their research on rocketry and stuff, but psychology? We didn't buy into their views on racial superiority, so why this? Unless...@murdoc @milkman76 @KatyElphinstone @autistics I agree that there's truth in the unitary concept of #autism. But the "self" ("aut-") aspect isn't a reflexive focus back onto the self. It's self-directedness — #autotropy, as opposed to the #ecotropy of #allistics, where their consciousness is yoked to the demands of the environment rather than the self. The focus of autistic #autotropic consciousness can be anything.
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@milkman76 @dedicto @KatyElphinstone @autistics
Yes, but then I wonder, why would we adopt these views? I mean, I get why we adopted their research on rocketry and stuff, but psychology? We didn't buy into their views on racial superiority, so why this? Unless...@murdoc @dedicto @KatyElphinstone @autistics operation paperclip demonstrates how nazis were allowed to obtain new identities and... blend in among western states post WW2. This does not bode well for this conversation.
And modern ADHD/spectrum stuff was mostly unchanged until the late 1980s, when the spectrum was expanded. Nobody was saying "inferior" or using ableist supremacy, they were just saying "disordered", and "troubled kids/lets help them".
Now we have fascists, lists.
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