Your phone is about to stop being yours.
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@spycrab @aoeuidhtns Good question!
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@lopta @ottercynical It's a little back-asswards, but at present, because most mobile Linux distributions only support a limited range of models, your best bet is to pick the distro you want, then look at its sorted model list. Work out and models whose features and performance you like, then see what they cost 2nd hand.
Google Pixels are expensive, even used. Some OnePlus models are fairly reasonable second hand, though.
@lproven @ottercynical I don't think OnePlus is a thing here. I've thought about buying a (non-Android) flip phone with hotspot support and tethering a tablet through that. Main Android apps I would miss are Organic Maps and my bus pass.
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@lproven @ottercynical I don't think OnePlus is a thing here. I've thought about buying a (non-Android) flip phone with hotspot support and tethering a tablet through that. Main Android apps I would miss are Organic Maps and my bus pass.
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven Typical. Make it open, make everyone depend on your ecosystem and then lock it down and force everyone to pay up. And because it's Google, they can just brute force through. If it was any other company they'd go into instant bankrupcy.
We can only hope EU will break their stupid wrists when they are pulling bullshit like this. Lock it down on Pixel phones all you want and then see how many you'll sell. But doing it Android wide is fucked up.
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@antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven if I could get my linux phone to pair with my car to give me maps and music.. i'd be there in a heartbeat
@codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven There are Linux phones?
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven
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You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.
High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts
Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.
Pixel phones are 700 USD or more
The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet
The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason
#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification
@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS
Pixel phones are 700 USD or more
That's simply not true. You can get a new Pixel 9a directly from Google for 500 USD. Used or refurbished ones are way cheaper. The Pixel 8a still has over 5 years of support left, it's pretty cheap on the used market. There's a useful website that calculates the ratio between the new or used price of a device and the remaining support time. https://resist.berlin/pixel-preise/
Edit: For some reason the Pixel 9a still costs as much as the 10a. So if you're looking to spend 500 USD on a new device, you should obviously get the 10a instead. The 9a is a pretty good deal on the used market though.
By buying used devices, you also avoid giving money to Google and it's more environmentally friendly. And of course it's cheaper, so it's a win-win situation.
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@ottercynical @lproven Other tablet operating systems are available.
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@lproven thank you for posting this on at least two different platforms, always interesting to compare and contrast the difference in responses.
@SonOfSunTzu It's remarkable, isn't it?
Anti "AI" stuff goes down like a lead balloon on Twitter, which is absolutely infested with creeping scuttling hordes of botlickers.
It goes down well here, as does pro-FOSS stuff.
Bsky, it's hard to tell.
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@codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven There are Linux phones?
@InkySchwartz @codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @lproven Very Dangerous. You go first Indy.
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@JoelBarr I don't know where in the world you are but where I am it is no problem at all.
@lproven good to know. Chicago area.
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven
To be fully honest, we knew this was coming. We obviously need to fight it but we also look at the uncomfortable truth that an OS that is only technically open source and becoming less so every year will probably become a problem.So yes, fight this one move. But please dont think this will save us.
We need to fight this and fight to get bootloaders opened up! They are becoming more sophisticated with a permanent lock that cant be disabled. And we need pi and arduino phones!
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven oopsie! We abandoned google, their phone OS, and the entire 'smartphone' ecosystem and we wont be looking back. We were pushed beyond our limits on all this years ago, and we are done with that whole mess until we can verify we have 100% control over our own data, our own hardware, etc.
Im a career net/sysadmin, but Ive already gone through all the stages of grief: ill abandon my career and become an adversary if I must. Keep pushing and lets find out.
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@lproven good to know. Chicago area.
@JoelBarr So, USA? No idea then. Last time I was in North America, smartphones hadn't been invented yet.
I live in the Isle of Man, work in the UK often, and before that in Czechia for a German company. I travel internationally a fair bit. My phones work everywhere, on all 3 of my providers, no problem.
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@codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven There are Linux phones?
@InkySchwartz @codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven probably worth checking out Jolla.
CarPlay and equivalent is tricky though as the protocols are completely closed and proprietary. Something that really ought to be put a stop to.
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@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Apple and Google both try to protect their users from exploits. /e/ claims protecting users from exploits is primarily useful to criminals and doesn't provide proper standard privacy and security patches or protections.
If you care about privacy and security then there's a lot more to choosing an alternate OS and a device than avoiding one particular company.
Most OEMs bundle privileged Google apps/services but weaken privacy beyond that.
@GrapheneOS @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven it depends on the attack vector.
Do you care about hardware steal ? Bieng a target for state? Do you install software with spywares?
If you just want to chill with open source privacy friendly software you don't need all the grapheneos security features.
What is needed is a cheap hardware+software where there is no bigbrother as root deciding to upload all your activity to its server.
State has already cell towers to track me.
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@InkySchwartz @codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven probably worth checking out Jolla.
CarPlay and equivalent is tricky though as the protocols are completely closed and proprietary. Something that really ought to be put a stop to.
@Setok @InkySchwartz @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven agreed. Makes me wanna make a mini computer in my car that just pairs to my phone for internet.
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@lproven oopsie! We abandoned google, their phone OS, and the entire 'smartphone' ecosystem and we wont be looking back. We were pushed beyond our limits on all this years ago, and we are done with that whole mess until we can verify we have 100% control over our own data, our own hardware, etc.
Im a career net/sysadmin, but Ive already gone through all the stages of grief: ill abandon my career and become an adversary if I must. Keep pushing and lets find out.
@Milkman76 @lproven What are you gonna do? (So i can copy your homework)
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven Im from EU, does this affects me when september comes? I mean, i wanna make an escape plan
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@lproven A common misconception people have about their devices, the device, the physical hardware, is yours, the software is not.
Think of it like your house, you can own the house but you can’t own the land that it’s on. If you think you own it, don’t pay your property tax and see what happens.
@dademurphy @lproven
"the software is not" - the software I write absolutely is mine, and Google want me to pay them to install my own software on my own phone."you can’t own the land that it’s on" - yes you can. People can buy a block of land and build on it. Property investors own a lot of empty blocks of land (as well as empty houses).
"don’t pay your property tax " - that's for maintenance of the supporting infrastructure of your residence, such as roads, water, electricity,...
