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  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

    @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Pixels are the most secure Android devices. They're currently the only Android devices providing both reasonable updates and proper support for using another OS. They're the only Android devices with important hardware-based security features needed for reasonable security where those can all be used by another OS. The only serious alternative that's available is an iPhone. Fairphones don't provide reasonable privacy or security with any OS.

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    @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Apple and Google both try to protect their users from exploits. /e/ claims protecting users from exploits is primarily useful to criminals and doesn't provide proper standard privacy and security patches or protections.

    If you care about privacy and security then there's a lot more to choosing an alternate OS and a device than avoiding one particular company.

    Most OEMs bundle privileged Google apps/services but weaken privacy beyond that.

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    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

      Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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      Keep Android Open

      Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

      favicon

      (keepandroidopen.org)

      125 days until lockdown

      Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

      Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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      @lproven I'm still looking for definitive answers for my Fairphone 4 running e/OS/.

      This is a mess. On the bright side, there is (or was) a proper open source version, which should gain support as a result of this.

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      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

        @fishidwardrobe Do read the whole web page, eh?

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        @lproven the web page agrees with what i said.

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        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

          Your phone is about to stop being yours.

          Link Preview Image
          Keep Android Open

          Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

          favicon

          (keepandroidopen.org)

          125 days until lockdown

          Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

          Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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          @lproven The EU and Asia REALLY need to offer Google free AFFORDABLE phones and pronto (along with efforts to de-meta, de-X)

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          • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

            @lproven It would be nice if (non-Android) Linux phones were an option.

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            @lopta @lproven they are

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            • scottytrees@mastodon.socialS scottytrees@mastodon.social

              @lproven all the android elitists for years saying android was the best, look at them now. always found it super weird to be in google's back pocket...

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              @scottytrees @lproven "signed, a resentful apple elitist"

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              • ottercynical@is.nota.liveO ottercynical@is.nota.live

                @lopta @lproven they are

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                @ottercynical @lproven Perhaps it depends where you live. Are there certain makes and models to look for?

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                  @lproven Damn it all! I switching to Apple... er, no wait...

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                  @gbsills @lproven

                  Okay ! You wanted to say:
                  #Switching to #Linux... 🤣

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                  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                    @lproven the web page agrees with what i said.

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                    @fishidwardrobe @lproven it doesn't seem *that* convoluted, but I'm intrigued by the ramifications of going through the process.

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                    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                      Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                      Link Preview Image
                      Keep Android Open

                      Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

                      favicon

                      (keepandroidopen.org)

                      125 days until lockdown

                      Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                      Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                      #66

                      @lproven thank you for posting this on at least two different platforms, always interesting to compare and contrast the difference in responses.

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                      • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                        @ottercynical @lproven Perhaps it depends where you live. Are there certain makes and models to look for?

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                        #67

                        @lopta @ottercynical It's a little back-asswards, but at present, because most mobile Linux distributions only support a limited range of models, your best bet is to pick the distro you want, then look at its sorted model list. Work out and models whose features and performance you like, then see what they cost 2nd hand.

                        Google Pixels are expensive, even used. Some OnePlus models are fairly reasonable second hand, though.

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                        • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                          @lproven the web page agrees with what i said.

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                          @fishidwardrobe Yes, it does. That was my point.

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                          • antonproitzelhaimer@mastodon.socialA antonproitzelhaimer@mastodon.social

                            @gbsills @lproven

                            Okay ! You wanted to say:
                            #Switching to #Linux... 🤣

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                            @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven if I could get my linux phone to pair with my car to give me maps and music.. i'd be there in a heartbeat

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                              @spycrab @aoeuidhtns Good question!

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                              • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                @lopta @ottercynical It's a little back-asswards, but at present, because most mobile Linux distributions only support a limited range of models, your best bet is to pick the distro you want, then look at its sorted model list. Work out and models whose features and performance you like, then see what they cost 2nd hand.

                                Google Pixels are expensive, even used. Some OnePlus models are fairly reasonable second hand, though.

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                                @lproven @ottercynical I don't think OnePlus is a thing here. I've thought about buying a (non-Android) flip phone with hotspot support and tethering a tablet through that. Main Android apps I would miss are Organic Maps and my bus pass.

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                                • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                                  @lproven @ottercynical I don't think OnePlus is a thing here. I've thought about buying a (non-Android) flip phone with hotspot support and tethering a tablet through that. Main Android apps I would miss are Organic Maps and my bus pass.

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                                  @lopta @lproven so... android with extra steps

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                                  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Keep Android Open

                                    Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

                                    favicon

                                    (keepandroidopen.org)

                                    125 days until lockdown

                                    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                    @lproven Typical. Make it open, make everyone depend on your ecosystem and then lock it down and force everyone to pay up. And because it's Google, they can just brute force through. If it was any other company they'd go into instant bankrupcy.

                                    We can only hope EU will break their stupid wrists when they are pulling bullshit like this. Lock it down on Pixel phones all you want and then see how many you'll sell. But doing it Android wide is fucked up.

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                                    • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                      @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven if I could get my linux phone to pair with my car to give me maps and music.. i'd be there in a heartbeat

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                                      @codemonkeymike @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven There are Linux phones?

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                                      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                        Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Keep Android Open

                                        Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

                                        favicon

                                        (keepandroidopen.org)

                                        125 days until lockdown

                                        Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                        Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                        @lproven
                                        Keep your hardcover library. They'll be coming for that next.

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                                        • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

                                          You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

                                          High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

                                          Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

                                          Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

                                          The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

                                          The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

                                          @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

                                          @GrapheneOS

                                          #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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                                          @Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

                                          Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

                                          That's simply not true. You can get a new Pixel 9a directly from Google for 500 USD. Used or refurbished ones are way cheaper. The Pixel 8a still has over 5 years of support left, it's pretty cheap on the used market. There's a useful website that calculates the ratio between the new or used price of a device and the remaining support time. https://resist.berlin/pixel-preise/

                                          Edit: For some reason the Pixel 9a still costs as much as the 10a. So if you're looking to spend 500 USD on a new device, you should obviously get the 10a instead. The 9a is a pretty good deal on the used market though.

                                          By buying used devices, you also avoid giving money to Google and it's more environmentally friendly. And of course it's cheaper, so it's a win-win situation.

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