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Let the truth be told, let the press be free.

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  • harmbotjes@mastodon.nlH harmbotjes@mastodon.nl

    @Lykkerik @ikuturso @EUCommission

    Probably Lykkerik doesn't understand the concept of EU sanctions on individuals.

    Maybe the #EU parties united in the parlement could explain this concept for their voters.

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    @HarmBotjes @ikuturso @EUCommission I definitely understand the concept of punishment without due process. I just don't approve of it.

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    • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

      @Lykkerik @EUCommission you still seem to be missing the fact that this is simply not a part of the legal system where this principle holds so it isn't a valid criticism for it.

      now, to be fair I guess you could use that as a generic argument for sanctions being a problematic mechanism just in general but that is a pretty different discussion.

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      @ikuturso @EUCommission The principle is universal. Newspeak doesn't change that. If the government is punishing you they have to have a legal basis. And punishment by principle should only be applied when you after due legal process have been proven guilty. You support the individual punishment of a journalist AND his family without due process. That's abhorrent!

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      • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

        @HarmBotjes @ikuturso @EUCommission I definitely understand the concept of punishment without due process. I just don't approve of it.

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        @Lykkerik @ikuturso @EUCommission
        But do you understand that having special relations with Russia these days could put your name on the EU-sanctions list.
        In fact the EU has a proxy war with Putinland. A friend of our enemy is, yes of course someone who should be sanctioned.
        Of course this is a German case. I didn't find info about the journalist in Dutch media.

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        • harmbotjes@mastodon.nlH harmbotjes@mastodon.nl

          @Lykkerik @ikuturso @EUCommission
          But do you understand that having special relations with Russia these days could put your name on the EU-sanctions list.
          In fact the EU has a proxy war with Putinland. A friend of our enemy is, yes of course someone who should be sanctioned.
          Of course this is a German case. I didn't find info about the journalist in Dutch media.

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          @HarmBotjes @ikuturso @EUCommission
          We know that the Zionist genocidal government of Germany persecutes people protesting the genocide. Hüseyin Doğru has been writing about that. We know that the President of the European Commission is Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen (born 1958) a staunch Zionist in support of the Israeli genocide in Gaza . 

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          • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

            @HarmBotjes @ikuturso @EUCommission
            We know that the Zionist genocidal government of Germany persecutes people protesting the genocide. Hüseyin Doğru has been writing about that. We know that the President of the European Commission is Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen (born 1958) a staunch Zionist in support of the Israeli genocide in Gaza . 

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            @Lykkerik @ikuturso @EUCommission

            https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCseyin_Do%C4%9Fru

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            • harmbotjes@mastodon.nlH harmbotjes@mastodon.nl

              @Lykkerik @ikuturso @EUCommission

              https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCseyin_Do%C4%9Fru

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              @HarmBotjes @ikuturso @EUCommission Free press or political sensorship and persecution?

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                @EUCommission To include (please) "free from the private ownership/control of oligarchs, also known as "press barons".

                The better model for a free press is ownership by a Board of Trustees pledged to uphold basic principles of probity & objectivity. Presently sadly lacking in the United Kingdom, with calamitous consequences for citizens.

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                • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

                  @HarmBotjes @ikuturso @EUCommission Free press or political sensorship and persecution?

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                  @Lykkerik @HarmBotjes @EUCommission Doğru has been at this for a while now. Before the "RED" rebranding he was a central figure in "Redfish" which the Russian state media channel RT has directly admitted was funded by them.

                  To me it seems clear enough that this really is a Russia-run operation and so the sanctioning is most likely about that more than anything else even if Doğru of course wants to try to use it to further Russia's goals too.

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                    Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                    Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                    This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                    Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                    @EUCommission hypocritical European executives complicit in genocide and crimes against humanity of Israel terrorist state that continues to murder #civilians, #journalists, #doctors and #paramedics. history will never forgive you criminals disguised beings without reason or mercy, there are no words in the world that describe their evil

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                    • luiscrespo@mastodon.socialL luiscrespo@mastodon.social

                      @EUCommission hypocritical European executives complicit in genocide and crimes against humanity of Israel terrorist state that continues to murder #civilians, #journalists, #doctors and #paramedics. history will never forgive you criminals disguised beings without reason or mercy, there are no words in the world that describe their evil

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                      @Luigi. 🇵🇸 🇱🇧 🇮🇷  🇻🇪 🏴 What genocide?
                      #^https://www.timesofisrael.com/majority-of-journalists-killed-in-gaza-linked-to-terror-organizations-study-says/

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                      • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                        @Lykkerik @HarmBotjes @EUCommission Doğru has been at this for a while now. Before the "RED" rebranding he was a central figure in "Redfish" which the Russian state media channel RT has directly admitted was funded by them.

                        To me it seems clear enough that this really is a Russia-run operation and so the sanctioning is most likely about that more than anything else even if Doğru of course wants to try to use it to further Russia's goals too.

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                        @ikuturso @HarmBotjes @EUCommission The only thing obvious to me is that he and his family is being severely punished without due process due to his writing! Which makes this screaming hypocrisy:
                        https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/116509371063854487

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                        • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

                          @ikuturso @HarmBotjes @EUCommission The only thing obvious to me is that he and his family is being severely punished without due process due to his writing! Which makes this screaming hypocrisy:
                          https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/116509371063854487

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                          @Lykkerik @HarmBotjes @EUCommission so are you disputing that Redfish is/was a Russian state media project and that he was a major figure operating it?

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                          • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                            @Lykkerik @HarmBotjes @EUCommission so are you disputing that Redfish is/was a Russian state media project and that he was a major figure operating it?

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                            @ikuturso @HarmBotjes @EUCommission Hard to tell as I've seen no proof and he hasn't been allowed to get his case tried in court. RT is not prohibited in Norway. We hold free speech and freedom of the press in high regard.

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                              Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                              Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                              This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                              Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                              @EUCommission Then why are pro-palestinian voices so oppressed in Germany? Why did Germany decline 3 places in the press freedom index?

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                              • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

                                @ikuturso @HarmBotjes @EUCommission Hard to tell as I've seen no proof and he hasn't been allowed to get his case tried in court. RT is not prohibited in Norway. We hold free speech and freedom of the press in high regard.

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                                @Lykkerik @HarmBotjes @EUCommission was asking about simple facts that are pretty well established regarding him, you don't need to try a court case to know such things.

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                                • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                                  @Lykkerik @HarmBotjes @EUCommission was asking about simple facts that are pretty well established regarding him, you don't need to try a court case to know such things.

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                                  @ikuturso @HarmBotjes @EUCommission Meanwhile politicians and media taking money to promote Israel and its genocide on Gaza is also sanctioned by the EU, but in the opposite meaning of the word. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, but only for opinions we like. https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/116509371063854487

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