I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead.
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling Stuff like "RSS is dead" is so funny to me because how have I read almost 10,000 feed items across 40+ feeds then?? What happened to RSS isn't that it "died" but that it resisted commercialization and became part of the infrastructure of the Web, sometimes well-hidden (I use a browser extension to find them myself) but expanding along with the Web itself.
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling Every GitHub repo as commit and release atom feeds...
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling Feel like I've seen "the idea that RSS/Atom is dead is stupid" more than "RSS/Atom is dead".
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling Ask yourself, "Whose interests are served by that narrative? Who is pushing that story?"
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling Sounds useful. Perhaps browsers should consider integrating RSS functionality
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@jonmsterling RSS is the main way I find content to read on the internet. Mastodon comes a very distant second. I have never found it difficult to find RSS feeds on blogs or websites that interest me, and for the few missing I usually convert their email newsletter to an RSS feed through https://kill-the-newsletter.com/, which works extremely well.
I agree with you that RSS seems very alive and well!
@dlzv @jonmsterling
you can use @birb to use mastodon as a rss reader -
I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling Hmm, youtube channnels have rss feeds too? I thought that it doesn't work anymore, I need to investigate this again. -
@dlzv @jonmsterling
you can use @birb to use mastodon as a rss reader@alloalli I'm more likely to want the opposite: using Mastodon's built-in RSS feeds to read Mastodon from the comfort of my RSS reader
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling It's less about RSS itself being dead, but blogs, which are mostly dead.
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling I make an Atom feed for my weeknotes but I don't really consume RSS feeds myself - at least not yet. Do you have any recommended apps or workflows that work for you?
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@jonmsterling I make an Atom feed for my weeknotes but I don't really consume RSS feeds myself - at least not yet. Do you have any recommended apps or workflows that work for you?
@liamoc I mostly use NetNewsWire.
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@jonmsterling It's less about RSS itself being dead, but blogs, which are mostly dead.
@giantpinkrobots That's not true either... There's more blogs than ever now.
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@liamoc I mostly use NetNewsWire.
@jonmsterling One thing I notice about RSS feeds is that for most of them, they don't include all the content in the feed itself, and just include a link to the content there. It's a bit annoying. This is what all YT feeds do, and substack only has the free preview rather than the full paid articles.
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@jonmsterling One thing I notice about RSS feeds is that for most of them, they don't include all the content in the feed itself, and just include a link to the content there. It's a bit annoying. This is what all YT feeds do, and substack only has the free preview rather than the full paid articles.
@jonmsterling Hm, maybe I could make a custom NetNewsWire theme that puts a youtube embed in the page for YT video feeds. Then I could bypass YT's algorithmic video selection entirely.. hmm
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@alloalli I'm more likely to want the opposite: using Mastodon's built-in RSS feeds to read Mastodon from the comfort of my RSS reader
@dlzv that's possible too off course
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
I've seen more sites get RSS in the last few years, not fewer.
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Can confirm YouTube has them. Feedly finds them automatically with just the link to the channel also. Very easy.
@mattmaison Well, it looks like Feedly enables you to subscribe to other sites that don't provide XML feeds. But yeah, YouTube does have them linked on channel's pages. They're available at
https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=…
I think it was YouTube searches I had in my feed reader back then. Or comments. But not channels. -
I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling I find it particularly weird when it’s claimed that killing Google Reader killed RSS
really? because, well, as you say, RSS is still fine, but anyway, was google reader ever so significant that it could have had such a disproportionate impact? (My guess: people who didn’t really use RSS only really know about Google Reader, and maybe conversely, people who used Google Reader weren’t very committed to RSS and so just gave up on RSS as a whole when GR went away.)
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The other thing that died, I guess, was the enthusiasm in the Big Web industry to jam RSS everywhere. There was a lot of weird hype back in those days, and for some reason people thought they could make money from it. Of course, the reality was the opposite: RSS empowers the *operators* of Internet-capable devices, rather than the parasites who try to extract money from the Web. That is why the weird hype died and megacorporations stopped making weird announcements about how they are transforming everything with RSS. But that stuff was never the soul of it, and it didn't matter at all.
@jonmsterling I absolutely love feeds—they are how I consume news. JSON Feeds is now also widely supported and even easier to implement than RSS or Atom.
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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).
RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.
There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.
Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.
RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.
@jonmsterling fwiw, I have been meaning to write a new RSS program for funsies.
However, I think the lack of organisation has been issue with my previous attempts and with other things just locking up/making it more difficult to access I would probably want to make it an RSS app that has some bookmarking utils and configuration for launching apps for music/videos.
Idk, things to ponder and design before I put it on the backburner.
