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I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead.

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  • steeph@queerchen.deS steeph@queerchen.de

    @jonmsterling YT still has RSS feeds? Mine stopped working when Twitter still had RSS feeds. I remember switching RSS generating services every time my current one stopped working for YT channels until I gave up. Maybe I just didn't know the right URL.

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    @steeph

    Can confirm YouTube has them. Feedly finds them automatically with just the link to the channel also. Very easy.

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    • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

      I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

      RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

      There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

      Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

      RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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      @jonmsterling There's a huge difference between the kind of popularity during the height of the 'blogosphere' and today. Lots of things ship RSS but that's (thankfully) because it's enabled by default. It's not even discoverable anymore by browsers by default unless publishers take the time to add a button.

      I think what people are lamenting is how front and center self-publishing and consumption of RSS was by a more general audience, not the fact that wordpress ships an Atom feed by default.

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      • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

        I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

        RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

        There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

        Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

        RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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        @jonmsterling I'm currently looking up some RSS-to-Mastodon converters so I can pull my Tumblr feed onto my Mastodon feed.

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        • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

          I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

          RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

          There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

          Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

          RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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          @jonmsterling

          RSS is dead!

          Long live RSS!

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          • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

            I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

            RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

            There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

            Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

            RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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            @jonmsterling The excellent Vivaldi browser has an email-like RSS reader bult in, which is very handy, since you can sift through all your RSS sources even while offline.

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            • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

              I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

              RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

              There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

              Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

              RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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              @jonmsterling I suspect that ad-ridden sites prefer that people don't skip reading their ad-heavy front pages and fluff pieces, since RSS allows you to skip direcly to the few posts that actually have content that interests you.

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              • canageek@wandering.shopC canageek@wandering.shop

                @jonmsterling Every tumblr has one, every Reddit user has one for their posts, and every subreddit has one for all posts

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                @Canageek @jonmsterling Oh wait, so I can import subreddits into Mastodon? Hrm...

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                • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                  I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                  RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                  There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                  Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                  RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                  @jonmsterling Stuff like "RSS is dead" is so funny to me because how have I read almost 10,000 feed items across 40+ feeds then?? What happened to RSS isn't that it "died" but that it resisted commercialization and became part of the infrastructure of the Web, sometimes well-hidden (I use a browser extension to find them myself) but expanding along with the Web itself.

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                  • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                    I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                    RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                    There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                    Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                    RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                    @jonmsterling Every GitHub repo as commit and release atom feeds...

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                    • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                      I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                      RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                      There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                      Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                      RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                      @jonmsterling Feel like I've seen "the idea that RSS/Atom is dead is stupid" more than "RSS/Atom is dead".

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                      • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                        I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                        RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                        There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                        Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                        RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                        @jonmsterling Ask yourself, "Whose interests are served by that narrative? Who is pushing that story?"

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                        • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                          I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                          RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                          There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                          Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                          RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

                          kroc@oldbytes.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #39

                          @jonmsterling Sounds useful. Perhaps browsers should consider integrating RSS functionality

                          😐

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                          • dlzv@mathstodon.xyzD dlzv@mathstodon.xyz

                            @jonmsterling RSS is the main way I find content to read on the internet. Mastodon comes a very distant second. I have never found it difficult to find RSS feeds on blogs or websites that interest me, and for the few missing I usually convert their email newsletter to an RSS feed through https://kill-the-newsletter.com/, which works extremely well.

                            I agree with you that RSS seems very alive and well!

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                            @dlzv @jonmsterling
                            you can use @birb to use mastodon as a rss reader

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                            • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                              I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                              RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                              There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                              Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                              RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                              @jonmsterling Hmm, youtube channnels have rss feeds too? I thought that it doesn't work anymore, I need to investigate this again.
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                              • alloalli@mastodon.nlA alloalli@mastodon.nl

                                @dlzv @jonmsterling
                                you can use @birb to use mastodon as a rss reader

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                                @alloalli I'm more likely to want the opposite: using Mastodon's built-in RSS feeds to read Mastodon from the comfort of my RSS reader 🙂

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                                • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                                  I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                                  RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                                  There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                                  Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                                  RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                                  @jonmsterling It's less about RSS itself being dead, but blogs, which are mostly dead.

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                                  • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                                    I find it such a weird meme that RSS/Atom is dead. Literally every blogging platform has RSS/Atom support. Not just the "indie" ones, even the big corporate ones, like Substack and Medium. Every mastodon account has a built-in RSS feed. Every Bluesky account has a built-in RSS feed. Almost every major news site has an RSS or Atom feed. WordPress automatically produces RSS feeds (and WordPress powers almost half the Web).

                                    RSS and Atom are almost certainly even more ubiquitous than they were in the 2000s, if only because the web has gotten so much bigger than it was back then.

                                    There are more podcasts now than there ever have been, and each of these has an RSS feed.

                                    Every fucking YouTube channel has an RSS feed. In 2005 there were probably fewer than 20 million blogs. Right now there are more than a hundred million YouTube channels.

                                    RSS/Atom is bigger than ever.

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                                    @jonmsterling I make an Atom feed for my weeknotes but I don't really consume RSS feeds myself - at least not yet. Do you have any recommended apps or workflows that work for you?

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                                    • liamoc@types.plL liamoc@types.pl

                                      @jonmsterling I make an Atom feed for my weeknotes but I don't really consume RSS feeds myself - at least not yet. Do you have any recommended apps or workflows that work for you?

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                                      @liamoc I mostly use NetNewsWire.

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                                      • giantpinkrobots@mastodon.socialG giantpinkrobots@mastodon.social

                                        @jonmsterling It's less about RSS itself being dead, but blogs, which are mostly dead.

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                                        @giantpinkrobots That's not true either... There's more blogs than ever now.

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                                        • jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyzJ jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz

                                          @liamoc I mostly use NetNewsWire.

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                                          @jonmsterling One thing I notice about RSS feeds is that for most of them, they don't include all the content in the feed itself, and just include a link to the content there. It's a bit annoying. This is what all YT feeds do, and substack only has the free preview rather than the full paid articles.

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