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  3. At this point I am beyond convinced that everyone talking about filter bubbles and echo chambers is simply concern trolling and is following some nefarious agenda

At this point I am beyond convinced that everyone talking about filter bubbles and echo chambers is simply concern trolling and is following some nefarious agenda

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  • gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
    gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
    gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.org
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    @NicholasLaney@nebbia.fail @jens @rune @oklomsy @schratze

    Just remember than trolling your other identities is not safe 😄

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    • gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.org

      @NicholasLaney@nebbia.fail @jens @rune @oklomsy @schratze

      Just remember than trolling your other identities is not safe 😄

      aaronwinstonsmith@mastodon.bida.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @GustavinoBevilacqua @NicholasLaney@nebbia.fail @jens @rune @oklomsy @schratze informazioni Bubbles are necessary ti avoid overwhelming . The point Is Who define the Bubble where you are confined

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      • mux2000@tooot.imM This user is from outside of this forum
        mux2000@tooot.imM This user is from outside of this forum
        mux2000@tooot.im
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        #12

        @matrixsasuke @schratze so you're saying we must listen to fascists or they will spill our blood? I don't think those are the only two options, no. They can shut the hell up or we'd punch their faces. Those are two more options.

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        • jonas@social.evilcyberhacker.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @alexisvl@cathode.church @schratze which is clearly why they're never happy with Parler, Truth Social, or whatever else. They don't want to speak freely to a bunch of people who agree, they want to tie everyone else up and force them to listen.

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          • cyborgneticz@scholar.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            cyborgneticz@scholar.social
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            #14

            @schratze I fucking love filters and I Will die on this hill

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            • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

              "but isn't excluding nazi instances the definition of a creating an information bubble"

              Yeah just like keeping out the Sarin gas from where people live is creating a breathable air bubble. What is your point

              anotherfriggindave@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @schratze Nazis don't provide information anyway. They provide noise. They "flood the zone with shit," in their (Bannon's) own words. It's kind of definitional to Nazis, really. And noise, obviously, effectively cancels out information - it drowns it out. So, yeah. "Information bubble."

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              • anotherfriggindave@mastodon.socialA anotherfriggindave@mastodon.social

                @schratze Nazis don't provide information anyway. They provide noise. They "flood the zone with shit," in their (Bannon's) own words. It's kind of definitional to Nazis, really. And noise, obviously, effectively cancels out information - it drowns it out. So, yeah. "Information bubble."

                andrej@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @anotherfriggindave @schratze Plesse use CWs.

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                • andrej@mastodon.socialA andrej@mastodon.social

                  @anotherfriggindave @schratze Plesse use CWs.

                  anotherfriggindave@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @andrej @schratze (New here, obviously) For what exactly? Cursing? Talking about Nazis? Steve Bannon? (I kid but I appreciate the suggestion, e.g. I'm not sure if it's typical to CW even just profanity here.)

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                  • anotherfriggindave@mastodon.socialA anotherfriggindave@mastodon.social

                    @andrej @schratze (New here, obviously) For what exactly? Cursing? Talking about Nazis? Steve Bannon? (I kid but I appreciate the suggestion, e.g. I'm not sure if it's typical to CW even just profanity here.)

                    andrej@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @anotherfriggindave @schratze Hm, I have good resources in German, but nothing in English. I quickly googled something. Maybe that is useful?

                    http://v21.io/blog/uses-of-cws

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                    • mux2000@tooot.imM This user is from outside of this forum
                      mux2000@tooot.imM This user is from outside of this forum
                      mux2000@tooot.im
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                      @matrixsasuke @schratze yeah, I get that's what you're saying. That's why I'm done talking to you. You want to talk with Nazis, go right ahead. You'll both be banned on my instance.

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                      • mux2000@tooot.imM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mux2000@tooot.imM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mux2000@tooot.im
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                        @matrixsasuke @schratze aaaaand you're blocked.

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                        • aaronwinstonsmith@mastodon.bida.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @NicholasLaney@nebbia.fail appiddaveru

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                          • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                            "but isn't excluding nazi instances the definition of a creating an information bubble"

                            Yeah just like keeping out the Sarin gas from where people live is creating a breathable air bubble. What is your point

                            shine@gts.churanova.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @schratze Yep. It also goes together with "if you defederate / block me, you are attacking my free speech" as if free speech meant absolute right to be listened to.

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                            • shine@gts.churanova.euS shine@gts.churanova.eu

                              @schratze Yep. It also goes together with "if you defederate / block me, you are attacking my free speech" as if free speech meant absolute right to be listened to.

                              trisschen@plural.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @shine @schratze very "If you don’t follow me and turn on post notifications, you are attacking my free speech" indeed

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                              • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                "but isn't excluding nazi instances the definition of a creating an information bubble"

                                Yeah just like keeping out the Sarin gas from where people live is creating a breathable air bubble. What is your point

                                burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @schratze let the Nazis breathe in their own cyanide

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                                • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                  "but isn't excluding nazi instances the definition of a creating an information bubble"

                                  Yeah just like keeping out the Sarin gas from where people live is creating a breathable air bubble. What is your point

                                  karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @schratze My fav streamer once put it... "Complaining about filter bubbles? Have you even seen The Unfiltered Internet? It's a cesspool full of filth, always has been. I want and need a bubble around the hobby I love and care about."

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                                  • alsvid@brain.worm.pinkA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    alsvid@brain.worm.pinkA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    The fact that nazi instances exist at all is unacceptable to begin with if you ask me

                                    RE: https://todon.nl/@schratze/109250920323459930
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                                    • mdhughes@appdot.netM mdhughes@appdot.net

                                      @schratze Not all of those are Nazis; I'd guess less than 1/3 of auth-right are actually white supremacist christfuckers. The rest are just your old relatives who tell racist jokes on f*c*book, or that guy who hasn't left the farm in 20 years, thinks Taco Bell is illegal immigrants.

                                      burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @mdhughes @schratze

                                      1/3 of auth right people are Nazis who aren't allowed to say it, and 2/3 of them are white people who fell for propaganda that preys on their fear

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                                      • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                        "but isn't excluding nazi instances the definition of a creating an information bubble"

                                        Yeah just like keeping out the Sarin gas from where people live is creating a breathable air bubble. What is your point

                                        thelastofhisname@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @schratze During WW II my great uncle "reasoned" with nazis via the business end of an M1.

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                                        • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                          "but isn't excluding nazi instances the definition of a creating an information bubble"

                                          Yeah just like keeping out the Sarin gas from where people live is creating a breathable air bubble. What is your point

                                          mark@mastodon.fixermark.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @schratze Correct and cannot be emphasized enough.

                                          There is no such thing as a lack of an info bubble. There's info bubbles that constrain / diminish / harm their participants... And info bubbles that do not. Painting them as equivalent was a very impressive sleight-of-hand executed by some of the worst people who had huge incentive to make people believe that Fox News and NPR are equivalent information sources.

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