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KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

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  • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

    @justincrozer You mustn't have read the thread fully - it isn't available in their country either

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    @ambiguous_yelp correct I replied to your post because of follower hashtags I didn't realise it was a thread from how it was viewed.

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    • P perrypeak@noc.social

      @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile AFAIK the pinephone is the hardware (that can run plasma mobile or another interface) and plasma mobile is the software (that can run on the pinephone or on another device)

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      #40

      @PerryPeak @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje @plasmamobile

      The preferred test hardware is OnePlus 6 and 6t these days.

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      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

        KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

        #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

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        Keep Android Open

        Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

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        (keepandroidopen.org)

        Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

        KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

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        An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

        Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

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        (keepandroidopen.org)

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        #41

        @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Maybe let's port lineage OS and Ubuntu touch to more devices and let Google stagnate like the pond it's become? 🤔

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        • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

          @olivenolje @helloclippy @kde

          A lot of the time banking apps are just QoL features though, obviously ymmv especially globally, but in my experience you can get by using the bank website, debit card details and cash. Those who can live without banking apps in order to grow the linux mobile ecosystem: should do so

          #Linux #LinuxMobile

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          @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje some banking apps are almost required. Ex. some banks I'm with require it to do certain expected features, excluding withdrawal/deposit.

          I've also seen one provider (wish I remembered the name) that explicitly stated they'll close your account if the app is not used every 30 days or so...

          Hence why I have two phones...

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          • jessienab@wetdry.worldJ jessienab@wetdry.world

            @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje some banking apps are almost required. Ex. some banks I'm with require it to do certain expected features, excluding withdrawal/deposit.

            I've also seen one provider (wish I remembered the name) that explicitly stated they'll close your account if the app is not used every 30 days or so...

            Hence why I have two phones...

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            #43

            @jessienab @olivenolje Ha thats ridiculous of them - if banks actually cared about 2FA for security they wouldn't use mobile phones for that they're too easily hacked; they'd insist on key fob devices instead.

            Of course its actually about building a surveillance network and the banks get a cut of the profits

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            • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

              KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

              #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

              Link Preview Image
              Keep Android Open

              Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

              favicon

              (keepandroidopen.org)

              Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

              KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

              Link Preview Image
              An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

              Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

              favicon

              (keepandroidopen.org)

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              #44

              @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Not to be rude, but as an average user/developer what's the issue at stake here?

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              • toadofsky@mastodon.socialT toadofsky@mastodon.social

                @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Not to be rude, but as an average user/developer what's the issue at stake here?

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                @toadofsky @kde @keepandroidopen https://keepandroidopen.org/ has a section for users too.

                Simple example, you want to install a nice app your friend made/recommended, you run stock Android, installation is rejected. The end.

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                • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                  @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Do you really think a company that lick the boots of a fascist dictator will give a damn about this open letter, let alone the openness of its own products?

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                  @Stem @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen But this is the only thing we can do.

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                  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                    KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                    #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Keep Android Open

                    Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                    favicon

                    (keepandroidopen.org)

                    Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                    KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                    Link Preview Image
                    An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                    Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                    favicon

                    (keepandroidopen.org)

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                    @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

                    Apple and Google, 2 choices for apps from where we sit, and both are partners in crime. END MONOPOLIES. Capitalism has become extortion when conglomerated.

                    Tear everything apart and build it from scratch, the entire system has been subverted to evil.

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                    • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                      @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

                      I hadn't heard until Plasma Mobile until now, I had only heard of the pinephone one. I am excited to hear more about the project development in the future!

                      #KDE #PlasmaMobile #Linux #Pinephone

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                      @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

                      Not even remotely ready. I'd almost say its 10 years away but you need a foundation for it to run on. And the number of phones it can run on right now I can count on one hand. Which is not a good start. Classic chicken and the egg situation, sadly.

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                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                        #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Keep Android Open

                        Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                        favicon

                        (keepandroidopen.org)

                        Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                        KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                        Link Preview Image
                        An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                        Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                        favicon

                        (keepandroidopen.org)

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                        @kde

                        Tokodon for Android? Where?

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                        • flan@bonito.cafeF flan@bonito.cafe

                          @kde

                          Tokodon for Android? Where?

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                          @flan @kde

                          Simply add the kde android repository to your fdroid and enjoy!

                          https://cdn.kde.org/android/stable-releases/fdroid/repo

                          I can recommend Tokodon (also) on android, i find is so much better than mastodon's official android client!

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                          • kellictiger@tiggi.esK kellictiger@tiggi.es

                            @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

                            Not even remotely ready. I'd almost say its 10 years away but you need a foundation for it to run on. And the number of phones it can run on right now I can count on one hand. Which is not a good start. Classic chicken and the egg situation, sadly.

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                            @KellicTiger @ambiguous_yelp @kde @plasmamobile Actually, even if it goes against the concept of user freedom, I'd prefer all the efforts going into making Linux solid for a handful of phones, instead of trying to adapt the OS to many different brands and models.

                            Even better, exclusively work on something like the PinePhone and make it the flagship of Linux phones. Perhaps the Linux Mobile would then finally really take off?

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                            • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                              @kilgoretrout @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Don't expect to win a fight against a supertank if your only weapon is a fistful of tiny stones.

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                              @Stem
                              keepandroidopen.org has information about what you can do besides begging Google.
                              @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

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                              • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                                @olivenolje @kde @Stem

                                I expect hardware to become more locked down, this is what states and capital want. The best solution to that continues to be open source hardware and modular devices.

                                I believe this because open source hardware and modular devices create power at a grassroots level and invites tighter crackdowns from governments - but there is a political limit to how oppressive a regime can be and the more power we build for ourselves the more expensive it will be for them to stop us using unapproved apps which slows the whole oppressive system down

                                #Anarchism #OpenSourceHardware

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                                @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje @kde @Stem I agree. I believe one solution is to start/continue to design hardware that's generic enough to do the job. Think dune buggies which are bare-bones but can move around quickly. Bolt on accessories as needed. Perhaps bring the #Permacomputing crowd in? Framework Computer style?

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                                • flan@bonito.cafeF flan@bonito.cafe

                                  @kde

                                  Tokodon for Android? Where?

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                                  @kde@floss.social @flan@bonito.cafe KDE F-Droid Repo obviously. KDE rarely use Google Play to distribute.
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                                  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                    KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                                    #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Keep Android Open

                                    Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                                    favicon

                                    (keepandroidopen.org)

                                    Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                                    KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                                    Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                                    favicon

                                    (keepandroidopen.org)

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                                    @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen lol so much drama in comment section 😅

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                                    • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                                      @kilgoretrout @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Don't expect to win a fight against a supertank if your only weapon is a fistful of tiny stones.

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                                      @Stem @kilgoretrout @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen a super tank also need driver to run.. Just kill the driver and ur supertank will become useless

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                                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                        KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                                        #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Keep Android Open

                                        Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                                        favicon

                                        (keepandroidopen.org)

                                        Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                                        KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                                        Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                                        favicon

                                        (keepandroidopen.org)

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                                        #57

                                        @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

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                                        • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                          KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                                          #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Keep Android Open

                                          Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                                          favicon

                                          (keepandroidopen.org)

                                          Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                                          KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                                          Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                                          favicon

                                          (keepandroidopen.org)

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                                          @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen It's time to have a Linux Mobile 100% functional as an alternative to Android.

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