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KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

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  • toadofsky@mastodon.socialT toadofsky@mastodon.social

    @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Not to be rude, but as an average user/developer what's the issue at stake here?

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    @toadofsky @kde @keepandroidopen https://keepandroidopen.org/ has a section for users too.

    Simple example, you want to install a nice app your friend made/recommended, you run stock Android, installation is rejected. The end.

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    • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

      @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Do you really think a company that lick the boots of a fascist dictator will give a damn about this open letter, let alone the openness of its own products?

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      @Stem @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen But this is the only thing we can do.

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      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

        KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

        #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

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        Keep Android Open

        Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

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        Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

        KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

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        An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

        Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

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        @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

        Apple and Google, 2 choices for apps from where we sit, and both are partners in crime. END MONOPOLIES. Capitalism has become extortion when conglomerated.

        Tear everything apart and build it from scratch, the entire system has been subverted to evil.

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        • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

          @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

          I hadn't heard until Plasma Mobile until now, I had only heard of the pinephone one. I am excited to hear more about the project development in the future!

          #KDE #PlasmaMobile #Linux #Pinephone

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          @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

          Not even remotely ready. I'd almost say its 10 years away but you need a foundation for it to run on. And the number of phones it can run on right now I can count on one hand. Which is not a good start. Classic chicken and the egg situation, sadly.

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          • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

            KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

            #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

            Link Preview Image
            Keep Android Open

            Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

            favicon

            (keepandroidopen.org)

            Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

            KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

            Link Preview Image
            An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

            Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

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            (keepandroidopen.org)

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            #49

            @kde

            Tokodon for Android? Where?

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            • flan@bonito.cafeF flan@bonito.cafe

              @kde

              Tokodon for Android? Where?

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              #50

              @flan @kde

              Simply add the kde android repository to your fdroid and enjoy!

              https://cdn.kde.org/android/stable-releases/fdroid/repo

              I can recommend Tokodon (also) on android, i find is so much better than mastodon's official android client!

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              • kellictiger@tiggi.esK kellictiger@tiggi.es

                @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

                Not even remotely ready. I'd almost say its 10 years away but you need a foundation for it to run on. And the number of phones it can run on right now I can count on one hand. Which is not a good start. Classic chicken and the egg situation, sadly.

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                #51

                @KellicTiger @ambiguous_yelp @kde @plasmamobile Actually, even if it goes against the concept of user freedom, I'd prefer all the efforts going into making Linux solid for a handful of phones, instead of trying to adapt the OS to many different brands and models.

                Even better, exclusively work on something like the PinePhone and make it the flagship of Linux phones. Perhaps the Linux Mobile would then finally really take off?

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                • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                  @kilgoretrout @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Don't expect to win a fight against a supertank if your only weapon is a fistful of tiny stones.

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                  @Stem
                  keepandroidopen.org has information about what you can do besides begging Google.
                  @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

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                  • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                    @olivenolje @kde @Stem

                    I expect hardware to become more locked down, this is what states and capital want. The best solution to that continues to be open source hardware and modular devices.

                    I believe this because open source hardware and modular devices create power at a grassroots level and invites tighter crackdowns from governments - but there is a political limit to how oppressive a regime can be and the more power we build for ourselves the more expensive it will be for them to stop us using unapproved apps which slows the whole oppressive system down

                    #Anarchism #OpenSourceHardware

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                    @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje @kde @Stem I agree. I believe one solution is to start/continue to design hardware that's generic enough to do the job. Think dune buggies which are bare-bones but can move around quickly. Bolt on accessories as needed. Perhaps bring the #Permacomputing crowd in? Framework Computer style?

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                    • flan@bonito.cafeF flan@bonito.cafe

                      @kde

                      Tokodon for Android? Where?

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                      @kde@floss.social @flan@bonito.cafe KDE F-Droid Repo obviously. KDE rarely use Google Play to distribute.
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                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                        #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Keep Android Open

                        Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                        favicon

                        (keepandroidopen.org)

                        Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                        KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                        Link Preview Image
                        An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                        Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                        favicon

                        (keepandroidopen.org)

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                        #55

                        @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen lol so much drama in comment section 😅

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                        • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                          @kilgoretrout @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Don't expect to win a fight against a supertank if your only weapon is a fistful of tiny stones.

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                          @Stem @kilgoretrout @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen a super tank also need driver to run.. Just kill the driver and ur supertank will become useless

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                          • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                            KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                            #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Keep Android Open

                            Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                            favicon

                            (keepandroidopen.org)

                            Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                            KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                            Link Preview Image
                            An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                            Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                            favicon

                            (keepandroidopen.org)

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                            @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

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                            • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                              KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                              #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                              Link Preview Image
                              Keep Android Open

                              Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                              favicon

                              (keepandroidopen.org)

                              Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                              KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                              Link Preview Image
                              An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                              Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                              favicon

                              (keepandroidopen.org)

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                              #58

                              @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen It's time to have a Linux Mobile 100% functional as an alternative to Android.

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                              • lepirelot@mastodon.socialL lepirelot@mastodon.social

                                @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen It's time to have a Linux Mobile 100% functional as an alternative to Android.

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                                @kde @fdroidorg @lepirelot @keepandroidopen I am daily driving the #Librem5. How much more functional do you need it?
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                                • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                  KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                                  #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Keep Android Open

                                  Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                                  favicon

                                  (keepandroidopen.org)

                                  Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                                  KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                                  Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                                  favicon

                                  (keepandroidopen.org)

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                                  @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen How does Plasma Mobile fit into this? I thought Plasma Mobile positions itself as an alternative to Android, so I'm wondering why we don't hear much about it.

                                  #Plasma #KDE

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                                  • okias@floss.socialO okias@floss.social

                                    @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen How does Plasma Mobile fit into this? I thought Plasma Mobile positions itself as an alternative to Android, so I'm wondering why we don't hear much about it.

                                    #Plasma #KDE

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                                    @okias @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

                                    It does. Albeit, many end users will find it hard to install and with not as many features or the stability of Android.

                                    We are working hard on it and it has come a long way, but it may not be the drop-in substitute many users will be looking for quite yet.

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