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  • simondeutschl@troet.cafeS simondeutschl@troet.cafe

    @Stem
    If you fight, you'll probably lose. But if you don't fight, you have already lost.

    @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

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    @simondeutschl @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen If you fight with inefficient weapons, you have also already lost.

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    • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

      @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

      I hadn't heard until Plasma Mobile until now, I had only heard of the pinephone one. I am excited to hear more about the project development in the future!

      #KDE #PlasmaMobile #Linux #Pinephone

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      @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile
      short:
      linux mobile has roughly three ui options.
      1 plasma mobile.
      2 phosh.
      3 gnome-mobile.

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      • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

        @helloclippy Device availability is definitely a friction point, but when choosing a new device this should be a priority and I will defend that, for example fairphone which is modular and pays workers a fairer wage and minimises conflict materials is compatible with /e/os

        I would say that /e/os would still be better than using googles android because at least you can do away with Google Play Services (the component granting google the power to censor apps) and it can probably be hardened post-install too.

        I'm not saying everyone needs to get a new phone right now but the existence of friction points doesn't mean we are powerless and it doesn't mean the friction can't be reduced in time

        As an anarchist basically I don't think we should rely on undemocratic institutions to solve our problems we should do everything we can right now at a grassroots level

        #FLOSS #Android #KeepAndroidOpen #Google #Fairphone #EOs #Censorship

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        @ambiguous_yelp @helloclippy buy a pixel phone and flash grapheneOS if you can't get a fairphone. Its what I did in Australia. I got the pixel 9a the last pixel with a released OS tree.

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        • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

          @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Do you really think a company that lick the boots of a fascist dictator will give a damn about this open letter, let alone the openness of its own products?

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          @Stem @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen this letter is not only for Google, but also regulators etc. Especially the EU should be up in arms over a DMA violation here, but that's just my opinion man

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          • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

            @simondeutschl @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen If you fight with inefficient weapons, you have also already lost.

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            @Stem
            OK... 🤷‍♂️

            @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

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            • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

              @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile

              I hadn't heard until Plasma Mobile until now, I had only heard of the pinephone one. I am excited to hear more about the project development in the future!

              #KDE #PlasmaMobile #Linux #Pinephone

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              @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile AFAIK the pinephone is the hardware (that can run plasma mobile or another interface) and plasma mobile is the software (that can run on the pinephone or on another device)

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              • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                @olivenolje @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Giving people false hope with an action that have no chance to have any meaningful result.

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                @Stem @olivenolje @kde @keepandroidopen So you wrote to your local representative already? What did they answer?

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                • justincrozer@fosstodon.orgJ justincrozer@fosstodon.org

                  @ambiguous_yelp @helloclippy buy a pixel phone and flash grapheneOS if you can't get a fairphone. Its what I did in Australia. I got the pixel 9a the last pixel with a released OS tree.

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                  @justincrozer You mustn't have read the thread fully - it isn't available in their country either

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                  • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                    @justincrozer You mustn't have read the thread fully - it isn't available in their country either

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                    @ambiguous_yelp correct I replied to your post because of follower hashtags I didn't realise it was a thread from how it was viewed.

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                    • P perrypeak@noc.social

                      @ambiguous_yelp @kde @olivenolje @plasmamobile AFAIK the pinephone is the hardware (that can run plasma mobile or another interface) and plasma mobile is the software (that can run on the pinephone or on another device)

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                      @PerryPeak @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje @plasmamobile

                      The preferred test hardware is OnePlus 6 and 6t these days.

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                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                        #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

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                        Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

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                        Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                        KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

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                        An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                        Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

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                        (keepandroidopen.org)

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                        @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Maybe let's port lineage OS and Ubuntu touch to more devices and let Google stagnate like the pond it's become? 🤔

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                        • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                          @olivenolje @helloclippy @kde

                          A lot of the time banking apps are just QoL features though, obviously ymmv especially globally, but in my experience you can get by using the bank website, debit card details and cash. Those who can live without banking apps in order to grow the linux mobile ecosystem: should do so

                          #Linux #LinuxMobile

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                          @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje some banking apps are almost required. Ex. some banks I'm with require it to do certain expected features, excluding withdrawal/deposit.

                          I've also seen one provider (wish I remembered the name) that explicitly stated they'll close your account if the app is not used every 30 days or so...

                          Hence why I have two phones...

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                          • jessienab@wetdry.worldJ jessienab@wetdry.world

                            @ambiguous_yelp @olivenolje some banking apps are almost required. Ex. some banks I'm with require it to do certain expected features, excluding withdrawal/deposit.

                            I've also seen one provider (wish I remembered the name) that explicitly stated they'll close your account if the app is not used every 30 days or so...

                            Hence why I have two phones...

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                            @jessienab @olivenolje Ha thats ridiculous of them - if banks actually cared about 2FA for security they wouldn't use mobile phones for that they're too easily hacked; they'd insist on key fob devices instead.

                            Of course its actually about building a surveillance network and the banks get a cut of the profits

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                            • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                              KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                              #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                              Link Preview Image
                              Keep Android Open

                              Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                              favicon

                              (keepandroidopen.org)

                              Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                              KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                              Link Preview Image
                              An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                              Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                              favicon

                              (keepandroidopen.org)

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                              @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Not to be rude, but as an average user/developer what's the issue at stake here?

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                              • toadofsky@mastodon.socialT toadofsky@mastodon.social

                                @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Not to be rude, but as an average user/developer what's the issue at stake here?

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                                @toadofsky @kde @keepandroidopen https://keepandroidopen.org/ has a section for users too.

                                Simple example, you want to install a nice app your friend made/recommended, you run stock Android, installation is rejected. The end.

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                                • stem@framapiaf.orgS stem@framapiaf.org

                                  @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen Do you really think a company that lick the boots of a fascist dictator will give a damn about this open letter, let alone the openness of its own products?

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                                  @Stem @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen But this is the only thing we can do.

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                                  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                    KDE supports the "Keep Android Open" campaign

                                    #Google will cut off independent developers to #Android if they do not register with Google first. This will kill independent platforms like @fdroidorg and severely impede FLOSS devs from creating apps for Android.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Keep Android Open

                                    Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

                                    favicon

                                    (keepandroidopen.org)

                                    Many KDE apps are deployed for Android: KDE Connect, Itinerary, Tokodon, and there's even a test version of Krita for Android.

                                    KDE calls on Google to reverse course and @keepandroidopen.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    An Open Letter to Google regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Android App Distribution

                                    Open Letter to Google Regarding Mandatory Developer Registration for Third-Party App Distribution

                                    favicon

                                    (keepandroidopen.org)

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                                    @kde @fdroidorg @keepandroidopen

                                    Apple and Google, 2 choices for apps from where we sit, and both are partners in crime. END MONOPOLIES. Capitalism has become extortion when conglomerated.

                                    Tear everything apart and build it from scratch, the entire system has been subverted to evil.

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