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  • jolla@techhub.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

    MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

    Read the full piece here:
    https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

    #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

    muppensish@mastodon.socialM mariusor@metalhead.clubM skersis@mastodon.socialS iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.orgI R 11 Replies Last reply
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    • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

      Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

      MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

      Read the full piece here:
      https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

      #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

      muppensish@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      muppensish@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      muppensish@mastodon.social
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      @jolla Lovely, more exposure!

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      • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

        Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

        MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

        Read the full piece here:
        https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

        #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

        mariusor@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jolla we're eagerly awaiting the collaboration with Volla or other EU phone manufacturers/assemblers.

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        • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

          Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

          MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

          Read the full piece here:
          https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

          #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

          skersis@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
          skersis@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
          skersis@mastodon.social
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          #4

          @jolla
          If really - Jolla truly russian, not europe

          hummel@stpauli.socialH kallekn@mastodonsweden.seK martin@libera.siteM setok@attractive.spaceS 4 Replies Last reply
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          • skersis@mastodon.socialS skersis@mastodon.social

            @jolla
            If really - Jolla truly russian, not europe

            hummel@stpauli.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            @skersis @jolla Its European. Finnland is European. RuSSia has nothing to do with that.

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            • hummel@stpauli.socialH hummel@stpauli.social

              @skersis @jolla Its European. Finnland is European. RuSSia has nothing to do with that.

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              @Hummel @jolla
              Do you think it is suitable for:
              government phones,
              the military,
              intelligence,
              critical infrastructure,
              communications among high-ranking officials?
              Why?

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              • skersis@mastodon.socialS skersis@mastodon.social

                @jolla
                If really - Jolla truly russian, not europe

                kallekn@mastodonsweden.seK This user is from outside of this forum
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                @skersis @jolla How so?

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                • skersis@mastodon.socialS skersis@mastodon.social

                  @Hummel @jolla
                  Do you think it is suitable for:
                  government phones,
                  the military,
                  intelligence,
                  critical infrastructure,
                  communications among high-ranking officials?
                  Why?

                  itseperkele@expressional.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                  itseperkele@expressional.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
                  itseperkele@expressional.social
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                  @skersis @Hummel @jolla Why not? If you have something to criticize, spit it out and don't try to pretend you are some mysterious wizard with secret knowledge

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                  • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

                    Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

                    MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

                    Read the full piece here:
                    https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

                    #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

                    iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jolla the only thing that is private and safe is free software, the matter is not companies registered here or there. until the code is open and free for distribution and modification - it is not safe and reliable.
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                    • itseperkele@expressional.socialI itseperkele@expressional.social

                      @skersis @Hummel @jolla Why not? If you have something to criticize, spit it out and don't try to pretend you are some mysterious wizard with secret knowledge

                      skersis@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ItsePerkele
                      Jolla raises concerns because its Sailfish OS was previously used in Russian government projects and supported by state-linked investors. Even if those ties were later cut, it still raises questions about trust and security.

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                      • skersis@mastodon.socialS skersis@mastodon.social

                        @ItsePerkele
                        Jolla raises concerns because its Sailfish OS was previously used in Russian government projects and supported by state-linked investors. Even if those ties were later cut, it still raises questions about trust and security.

                        itseperkele@expressional.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @skersis Thanks for the info.

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                        • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

                          Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

                          MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

                          Read the full piece here:
                          https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

                          #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

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                          rwvanleeuwen@techhub.social
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                          @jolla hey Jolla,
                          When can I finalise my order? Its been quite some time to get a response going. Are you even alive or is your firm 100% bot operated??

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                          • skersis@mastodon.socialS skersis@mastodon.social

                            @jolla
                            If really - Jolla truly russian, not europe

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                            • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

                              Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

                              MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

                              Read the full piece here:
                              https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

                              #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

                              khm@hj.9fs.netK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              "four mobile operating systems in the world" not counting UBPorts, PostmarketOS, Mobian, Maemo Leste, and of course KaiOS, which has shipped more units than Sailfish despite the latter's five-year head start
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                              • kallekn@mastodonsweden.seK kallekn@mastodonsweden.se

                                @skersis @jolla How so?

                                t0maz@floss.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @kallekn @skersis @jolla Just Google for it. They have been partially owned by Russian company which was 45% state owned but I hear that after invasion on Ukraine they’ve managed to resolve this issue and got out of this awkward situation?
                                It would be best though if Jolla would clarify themself the current status and ownership.

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                                • khm@hj.9fs.netK khm@hj.9fs.net
                                  "four mobile operating systems in the world" not counting UBPorts, PostmarketOS, Mobian, Maemo Leste, and of course KaiOS, which has shipped more units than Sailfish despite the latter's five-year head start
                                  hummel@stpauli.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @khm @jolla
                                  1. KaiOS is made for Feature Phones. Jolla is focused in Smartphones.
                                  2. KaiOS is almost dead

                                  The Linux alternatives you mentioned are nothing you could as daily driver.

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                                  • hummel@stpauli.socialH hummel@stpauli.social

                                    @khm @jolla
                                    1. KaiOS is made for Feature Phones. Jolla is focused in Smartphones.
                                    2. KaiOS is almost dead

                                    The Linux alternatives you mentioned are nothing you could as daily driver.

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                                    1. KaiOS is not noticeably less 'smart' than Jolla. They've chosen to aim downmarket, but that is not a technical limitation.
                                    2. Sailfish is also 'almost dead.' Jolla isn't even a company any more, just a brand name rescued from the flames of Rostelecom investment. It's a series of Kickstarter projects with mixed results.

                                    Having used Sailfish and also literally all of the alternatives I mentioned, several of them (particularly UBPorts and PostmarketOS) are at least as good as Sailfish. An ancient Oneplus 6 running Phosh on PostmarketOS is a better successor to the Nokia N9 than anything Jollyboys has in the hopper.

                                    CC: @jolla@techhub.social
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                                    • khm@hj.9fs.netK khm@hj.9fs.net
                                      1. KaiOS is not noticeably less 'smart' than Jolla. They've chosen to aim downmarket, but that is not a technical limitation.
                                      2. Sailfish is also 'almost dead.' Jolla isn't even a company any more, just a brand name rescued from the flames of Rostelecom investment. It's a series of Kickstarter projects with mixed results.

                                      Having used Sailfish and also literally all of the alternatives I mentioned, several of them (particularly UBPorts and PostmarketOS) are at least as good as Sailfish. An ancient Oneplus 6 running Phosh on PostmarketOS is a better successor to the Nokia N9 than anything Jollyboys has in the hopper.

                                      CC: @jolla@techhub.social
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                                      @khm @jolla
                                      KaiOS runs on outdated software and almost every remaining useful app is a web app. There are barely any new phones.

                                      "Jolla is almost dead" 10k+ pre-orders for the most recent phone after the C2 . And if "Kickstarter with mixed results" kills Jolla's credibility, what does that say about PostmarketOS, which has no company, no employees, no hardware program and no revenue?

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                                      • hummel@stpauli.socialH hummel@stpauli.social

                                        @khm @jolla
                                        KaiOS runs on outdated software and almost every remaining useful app is a web app. There are barely any new phones.

                                        "Jolla is almost dead" 10k+ pre-orders for the most recent phone after the C2 . And if "Kickstarter with mixed results" kills Jolla's credibility, what does that say about PostmarketOS, which has no company, no employees, no hardware program and no revenue?

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                                        Still not sure how "barely any new phones" differentiates Sailfish and KaiOS.

                                        10k pre-orders is meaningless noise in the mobile market. It's a rounding error.

                                        Having no company, no employees, no hardware program, and no revenue is a hell of a lot better than having a company, employees, hardware program, and revenue, and no resulting advantage, and a previous failed company.

                                        I would love to live in a world where Sailfish is a major player. They have demonstrated for over a decade that they cannot achieve that goal.

                                        CC: @jolla@techhub.social
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                                        • jolla@techhub.socialJ jolla@techhub.social

                                          Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

                                          MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

                                          Read the full piece here:
                                          https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

                                          #Jolla #SailfishOS #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyFirst #CommunityPowered #European

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                                          mfom@mastodon.social
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                                          @jolla Any chance this article in English or Spanish?

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