<![CDATA[Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV.]]>Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. Today they published the full story! 🎉

MTV wrote about digital sovereignty and whether a Finnish mobile operating system could be the European alternative (article in Finnish 🇫🇮). There are only four mobile operating systems in the world: two American, one Chinese — and Sailfish OS. The only truly European one.

Read the full piece here:
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaiskannykasta-turvallinen-vaihtoehto-jattifirmoista-irti-haluaville-entisten-nokia-insinoorien-jolla-tekee-paluuta/9321652

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/885c2245-9aab-48be-8039-6a23ab789c15/yesterday-we-told-you-about-jolla-appearing-on-viiden-jälkeen-by-finnish-national-tv-channel-mtv.RSS for NodeWed, 15 Apr 2026 13:17:54 GMTThu, 09 Apr 2026 14:14:52 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 19:46:43 GMT]]>
Guess I have my answer.

CC: @jolla@techhub.social
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776109603.682915https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776109603.682915Mon, 13 Apr 2026 19:46:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 18:51:14 GMT]]>@khm @jolla but how is ‘Jolla is not even a company’ in any way fact? It demonstrably is a company.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116398900821237165https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116398900821237165Mon, 13 Apr 2026 18:51:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 17:27:06 GMT]]>@Antti98 @jolla thanks!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://techhub.social/ap/users/115559882434321889/statuses/116398570009433165https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://techhub.social/ap/users/115559882434321889/statuses/116398570009433165Mon, 13 Apr 2026 17:27:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 15:00:02 GMT]]>qua fact. I am open to the idea that my interpretation of their corporate history may be unduly pessimistic, but there has been a lot of flailing without much to show for it, and the fact that there are even more companies now doesn't really fill me with hope.

CC: @jolla@techhub.social
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776092402.609285https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776092402.609285Mon, 13 Apr 2026 15:00:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 14:37:20 GMT]]>@khm @jolla I have no experience of KaiOS so will refrain from commenting on it.

I just feel your framing of saying, literally, that ‘Jolla is not even a company’ is unfair?

I mean even if you wanted to be super pedantic and say that, well, Jolly Boys does not include ‘Jolla’ in the name (having a company name separate from a brand is very common), they have the trademark and there actually is a registered Jolla Mobile company.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116397902448684113https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116397902448684113Mon, 13 Apr 2026 14:37:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:01:58 GMT]]>
In fact, between Jolla Oy, Jolla Group Ltd, Seafarix, and Jollyboys, it's possible they've produced more companies than phones. I can tell you're emotionally invested in Sailfish, but I do not regard this as a promising sign of future success.


CC: @jolla@techhub.social
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776085318.192883https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776085318.192883Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:01:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 06:46:39 GMT]]>@khm @jolla and the new company … is a company.

So I’m not sure what your criticism is trying to say? What does it matter that it’s a new company? Isn’t that actually a good thing?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116396051609405584https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116396051609405584Mon, 13 Apr 2026 06:46:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 22:23:54 GMT]]>not a company any more. Which is what I said. Glad we could get there in the end.

CC: @jolla@techhub.social
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776032634.936533https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776032634.936533Sun, 12 Apr 2026 22:23:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 20:15:45 GMT]]>@khm @jolla in other words … a new company. So probably not fair to say it is hardly a company?

The move allowed them to rid themselves of Russian shareholders so while I’m sure it wasn’t ideal, it was probably necessary.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116393570857073283https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116393570857073283Sun, 12 Apr 2026 20:15:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 19:44:32 GMT]]>
CC: @jolla@techhub.social
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776023072.616327https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1776023072.616327Sun, 12 Apr 2026 19:44:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 07:54:10 GMT]]>@khm @jolla what exactly do you mean by ‘not even a company’. Most of the people involved in Jolla today have been running it for years. They have the IPR, it is a company, it uses the brand. I’m not sure what more you would want?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116390654813622101https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116390654813622101Sun, 12 Apr 2026 07:54:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 07:52:05 GMT]]>@khm @jolla I think the original statement was only four with commercial offerings, but I’d need to listen through again. The article seems to abbreviate that.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116390646603169399https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116390646603169399Sun, 12 Apr 2026 07:52:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sat, 11 Apr 2026 19:26:30 GMT]]>@jolla fairphone and Jolla should make phones together.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mementomori.social/users/Nettlephagus/statuses/116387714872840763https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mementomori.social/users/Nettlephagus/statuses/116387714872840763Sat, 11 Apr 2026 19:26:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:33:15 GMT]]>@skersis Jolla isn't Russian in any way

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116385146205520026https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://attractive.space/users/Setok/statuses/116385146205520026Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:33:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 19:46:07 GMT]]>@jolla don't you forget UB-Ports? https://ubports.com/

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CC: @jolla@techhub.social
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1775827279.192431https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hj.9fs.net/khm/p/1775827279.192431Fri, 10 Apr 2026 13:21:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 09:59:08 GMT]]>@t0maz @Antti98 @kallekn @skersis https://jolla-devices.com/news/the-effects-of-the-war-in-ukraine-on-jolla-a-summary/

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samulisimojoki_putinin-hy%C3%B6kk%C3%A4ys-ukrainaan-pakottaa-meist%C3%A4-activity-6904001201180934144-lb4d/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://expressional.social/ap/users/116279406627404723/statuses/116379821550668238https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://expressional.social/ap/users/116279406627404723/statuses/116379821550668238Fri, 10 Apr 2026 09:59:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:34:51 GMT]]>@jolla That's interesting.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115941035963271256/statuses/116379254226622574https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vivaldi.net/ap/users/115941035963271256/statuses/116379254226622574Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:34:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:28:53 GMT]]>@jolla "There are only four mobile operating systems in the world" me when I lie

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://squawk.social/users/crowy/statuses/116379230743674345https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://squawk.social/users/crowy/statuses/116379230743674345Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:28:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:02:23 GMT]]>@Antti98 @kallekn @skersis It’s good to know, thanks! I just cannot find this public statement and hear some complaints that there is no transparency about current ownership status.
I guess that sharing publicly this info would help the company to quickly clarify in easy way this fact to potential customers.
Unless there is again something to be not proud of. I hope not because I’d really like to see more Linux phones on the market!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/t0maz/statuses/116379126572034415https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/t0maz/statuses/116379126572034415Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:02:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:25:14 GMT]]>@khm @jolla In the news it was put that "four COMMERCIAL mobile operating systems in the world". And to be fair I think that is true. OS needs to be commercial if it wants to become option for wide masses and not only for niche very tech oriented people, IMO.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116378744532836288https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116378744532836288Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:25:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:21:55 GMT]]>@t0maz @kallekn @skersis Jolla has publicly said that there are no connections to Ruzzia what-so-ever. Jolla started leaving Ruz in 2021 and 2023 they filed for bankruptcy as Ruz owner (at peak ~20% ownership) didn't want to sell. As the company was mostly in Finnish ownership at that point, Finnish court ordered to sell the immaterial rights to another company. Management of Jolla with Finnish investors bought the immaterial rights to new company and the Ruz saga ended finally.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116378731494840313https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116378731494840313Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:21:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:18:00 GMT]]>@skersis @ItsePerkele So I can assure you, Jolla is not Ruzzian, whole operating system is and was developed in Finland (well part of it in US probably, as Intel was partner with Nokia for Meego). The operating system were NOT developed in Ruzzia or in co-operation with Ruzzia. Reason Jolla ever went to Ruzzia was that there were no interest of independent OS inside Europe which led to financial constrains. Luckily times have changed

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116378716101467736https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Antti98/statuses/116378716101467736Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:18:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Yesterday we told you about Jolla appearing on Viiden Jälkeen by Finnish national TV channel MTV. on Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:15:15 GMT]]>@skersis @ItsePerkele Doesn't really raise concerns, I don't see any reason not to use the OS in critical places. Most parts outside of UI components are open source, anyone can check themselves.

What Jolla did in Ruzzia was to make a fork of their operating system and customisation to that for Ruzzian government needs. Even if state linked investor owner ~20% at their peak, it doesn't put Jolla in risk. Dev tasks of actual OS stayed whole time in Finland. Jolla started to leavy Rus in 2021

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