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  • tarix29@tech.lgbtT tarix29@tech.lgbt

    @neil I live in an apartment building where the washing machine (1 for the whole building) has WiFi/Bluetooth. You have to pay to use it and if you don't use their proprietary app and pay with credit card (it does not accept coins or swipe/chip cards, only contactless) it charges you 50 cents more

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    @tarix29 @neil Someone should jailbrake that thing 😔

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
      It's a feature that I would regret.
      I just need a way to wash my pants.
      Not show them to the Internet.

      My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
      I'd value that least of all.
      It's already shielded from getting too hot.
      It doesn't need another firewall.

      My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
      That is just not useful for me.
      I want a place to chill my food.
      Not chat via TCP/IP.

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      #33

      @neil in belgium we have a vendor that built his own hardware (washing machine etc), without any wifi etc.

      and they sell quite well it seem.

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      • acsawdey@fosstodon.orgA acsawdey@fosstodon.org

        @neil I wouldn’t mind all these things having WiFi if it was along the lines of OBD-2 in a car. Just query the internal state of the device. But no, it’s used as a conduit for enshittification.

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        #34

        @acsawdey @neil you don't have a subscription, so you clothe remain wet kind of crap soon i guess ?

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          #35

          @acsawdey @neil i will make toilet paper with DRM, only work if you put my brand of toilet paper that must be the same as the toilet itself.

          And if you have a bidet, it will not work if you don't have toilet paper anymore (like the scan with the imprimante ink).

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
            It's a feature that I would regret.
            I just need a way to wash my pants.
            Not show them to the Internet.

            My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
            I'd value that least of all.
            It's already shielded from getting too hot.
            It doesn't need another firewall.

            My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
            That is just not useful for me.
            I want a place to chill my food.
            Not chat via TCP/IP.

            limey_tank@mastodon.ieL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #36

            @neil @Lazarou To think that I was once so naive that I wanted to network everything in the house.

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
              It's a feature that I would regret.
              I just need a way to wash my pants.
              Not show them to the Internet.

              My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
              I'd value that least of all.
              It's already shielded from getting too hot.
              It doesn't need another firewall.

              My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
              That is just not useful for me.
              I want a place to chill my food.
              Not chat via TCP/IP.

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              hyacin@social.linux.pizza
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              #37

              @neil They don't _need_ those things, no - and the fridge I still wonder about - but I just upgraded to an LG induction unit and I've got to admit, the preheated notifications are actually really useful as we're not always within earshot, and it gets you over there and putting stuff in the oven quicker so it's not sitting there wasting electricity. The washer and dryer notifications aren't bad either so we don't have to keep going down and checking, especially if we're say, waiting for a blanket so we can go to bed or something.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                It's a feature that I would regret.
                I just need a way to wash my pants.
                Not show them to the Internet.

                My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                I'd value that least of all.
                It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                It doesn't need another firewall.

                My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                That is just not useful for me.
                I want a place to chill my food.
                Not chat via TCP/IP.

                donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #38

                @neil
                aka fuq no to the 3rd.
                well said.

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                • limey_tank@mastodon.ieL limey_tank@mastodon.ie

                  @neil @Lazarou To think that I was once so naive that I wanted to network everything in the house.

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                  #39

                  @Limey_tank @neil maybe it would be a good idea under some other system than Capitalism?

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                  • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                    @Limey_tank @neil maybe it would be a good idea under some other system than Capitalism?

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                    #40

                    @Lazarou @neil of course! Open source hardware FTW

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                    • joonq@mastodon.socialJ joonq@mastodon.social

                      @tarix29 @neil Someone should jailbrake that thing 😔

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                      #41

                      @joonq @neil on the one hand I do wish it could be jailbroken, but on the other given that the machine itself processes credit cards I would hope it's relatively secure

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                        It's a feature that I would regret.
                        I just need a way to wash my pants.
                        Not show them to the Internet.

                        My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                        I'd value that least of all.
                        It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                        It doesn't need another firewall.

                        My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                        That is just not useful for me.
                        I want a place to chill my food.
                        Not chat via TCP/IP.

                        bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #42

                        @neil both my washer and dryer have wifi. Never even set it up.

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                        • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                          @neil both my washer and dryer have wifi. Never even set it up.

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                          #43

                          @bloor Same with our dishwasher. I don't see the point.

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                          • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                            @neil both my washer and dryer have wifi. Never even set it up.

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                            #44

                            @bloor Annoyingly that means they are broadcasting a hotspot. I have a fridge hotspot... that's a network security threat angle I haven't investigated... @neil

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              @bloor Same with our dishwasher. I don't see the point.

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                              @neil I guess could, with a big stretch, see some “slightly nice to have”s with laundry equipment. For example it could be cool to have some kind of instant message when wash finishes/dryer finishes or whatever.

                              But no, dishwasher, can’t really see a case.

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                              • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                @neil I guess could, with a big stretch, see some “slightly nice to have”s with laundry equipment. For example it could be cool to have some kind of instant message when wash finishes/dryer finishes or whatever.

                                But no, dishwasher, can’t really see a case.

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                                @bloor

                                > it could be cool to have some kind of instant message when wash finishes/dryer finishes or whatever

                                It would be cool if it could unload itself and put in the next load!

                                I'm not sure that I have a need for a notification though - either I am at home and can deal with it (so I don't need a notification to my phone), or else I am not and so couldn't deal with even if I were notified!

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  @bloor

                                  > it could be cool to have some kind of instant message when wash finishes/dryer finishes or whatever

                                  It would be cool if it could unload itself and put in the next load!

                                  I'm not sure that I have a need for a notification though - either I am at home and can deal with it (so I don't need a notification to my phone), or else I am not and so couldn't deal with even if I were notified!

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                                  @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk @bloor@bloor.tw our washing machine beeps annoyingly when it finishes
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                                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                    @bloor

                                    > it could be cool to have some kind of instant message when wash finishes/dryer finishes or whatever

                                    It would be cool if it could unload itself and put in the next load!

                                    I'm not sure that I have a need for a notification though - either I am at home and can deal with it (so I don't need a notification to my phone), or else I am not and so couldn't deal with even if I were notified!

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                                    #48

                                    @neil @bloor You'd think if both the dryer and the washer had wifi there would be a tunnel.

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                                    • nick@shore.me.ukN nick@shore.me.uk
                                      @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk @bloor@bloor.tw our washing machine beeps annoyingly when it finishes
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                                      @nick @neil see i could absolutely substitute the annoying loud beep for a polite notification on my phone

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                                      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                        @neil I guess could, with a big stretch, see some “slightly nice to have”s with laundry equipment. For example it could be cool to have some kind of instant message when wash finishes/dryer finishes or whatever.

                                        But no, dishwasher, can’t really see a case.

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                                        @bloor @neil my washing machine sends me a push message if the expected duration changes or the cycle ends. I also have it hooked into Home Assistant. It is a German brand so I am assuming at least a modicum of privacy and data protection.

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                                        • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                                          @bloor @neil my washing machine sends me a push message if the expected duration changes or the cycle ends. I also have it hooked into Home Assistant. It is a German brand so I am assuming at least a modicum of privacy and data protection.

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                                          #51

                                          @dan @neil ooi is it Bosch?

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