If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly.
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@baszoetekouw Your freedom. But you should tell them, not me, that the trackers on their website (that you can deny to use) is where your tolerance has its limits.
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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower
Wero - Digital payment wallet
Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.
(wero-wallet.eu)
@jwildeboer I for one can't wait for the other features to become available in the Netherlands, would love to ditch PayPal
It sounds really promising and it being (partly) based on iDeal makes me feel confident it's going to perform well 
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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower
Wero - Digital payment wallet
Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.
(wero-wallet.eu)
@jwildeboer the site says this is “to send and receive money between family and friends”, but we can do this with regular SEPA transfers. I don’t need Visa/Mastercard for that. I couldn’t even use Visa/Mastercard for that if I wanted to.
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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower
Wero - Digital payment wallet
Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.
(wero-wallet.eu)
@jwildeboer @mischa maybe that page helps as well https://werotracker.eu
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@jwildeboer als in Spanien lebender: bizum ist so cool und praktisch und funktioniert. Von Person zu Person, aber auch bei Ikea etc. Ich hoffe wero und bizum finden zusammen… wahrscheinlich nicht…
@codingGarden
Ich habe keine spanische Bank gefunden
Wir müssen abwarten
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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower
Wero - Digital payment wallet
Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.
(wero-wallet.eu)
@jwildeboer i dont see a single spanish or swedish bank in there. They have their own solution so, not hopeful about this
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@jwildeboer i dont see a single spanish or swedish bank in there. They have their own solution so, not hopeful about this
@jwildeboer @ruthpozuelo That's #Bizum. Haven't looked at it but hopefully its not as bad as #Wero - #SEPA payments are the answer. -
@jwildeboer i dont see a single spanish or swedish bank in there. They have their own solution so, not hopeful about this
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@jwildeboer Moving to another country just to get access to an app seems a bit drastic imo… what do i know
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@jwildeboer Moving to another country just to get access to an app seems a bit drastic imo… what do i know
️@ruthpozuelo Not what I said. EuroPA, the company that also runs Bizum in Spain, is cooperating with Wero, so soon your Spanish Bizum app will work in a lot more countries. No need to move
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@ruthpozuelo Not what I said. EuroPA, the company that also runs Bizum in Spain, is cooperating with Wero, so soon your Spanish Bizum app will work in a lot more countries. No need to move
@jwildeboer Lovely, I need sweden to cooperate, the app is Swish. Then I could send money to Bizum users.
Till then I am out of options.Would love for it to work though…
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@jwildeboer Lovely, I need sweden to cooperate, the app is Swish. Then I could send money to Bizum users.
Till then I am out of options.Would love for it to work though…
@ruthpozuelo Swish is free to join Wero, that’s their decision to make. When enough users ask them to, they will.
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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower
Wero - Digital payment wallet
Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.
(wero-wallet.eu)
A first step could be that banks offering acceptance of #wero payments stopped making the price a secret.
My advice: start wero with really attractive prices (say, no more than 0.5 to 1% of payment) and make these prices Public.
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A first step could be that banks offering acceptance of #wero payments stopped making the price a secret.
My advice: start wero with really attractive prices (say, no more than 0.5 to 1% of payment) and make these prices Public.
@Jtuchel Which fees? Wero for person to person transactions is completely free. If a bank decides to add their own fees, that would be a reason for me to avoid that bank.
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@Jtuchel Which fees? Wero for person to person transactions is completely free. If a bank decides to add their own fees, that would be a reason for me to avoid that bank.
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I use it often to transfer money to friends/family but to replace Visa/Mastercard we’ll need the payment system which is not yet available.
And to replace PayPal, the vendor website should allow it as an option, so this will take some times.@tinsjourney I am looking into using it for our SaaS, which would mean #b2b online-checkout.
I am trying to find out whether it is worth the effort of developing an integration. So far, I haven't found much for my list of PRO-arguments...I guess p2p-payments will never finance #wero. Banks need margin.
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@kelvan It is a bit more. First we had the SEPA system to make transfers across many EU countries easy (and free). Then we added direct and real-time A2A (Account to Account) transfers (also for free) and now Wero as the top layer for simplicity. Soon PoS (Point of Sale) systems will join and online stores will also be ablate use (rollout has started). All of this without the need for a middle man and under EU data protection rules.
this really is a dream. Imagine keeping Visa/Mastercard and Apple/Google out of the business and simply pay by using yopur phone at the cashier in your favorite supermarket or kebab shop.
I would absolutely love to see this happen rather sooner than later.
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@ruthpozuelo Swish is free to join Wero, that’s their decision to make. When enough users ask them to, they will.
@jwildeboer Most users dont care or know about it.
This needs to be a EU initiative so banks are ”forced” into it. Same as they did with roaming.
Insane this is a thing in 2026…
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"But I have Bizum and it's so good" -> It joins Wero https://epicompany.eu/media-insights/europa-and-epi-launch-collaboration-to-expand-sovereign-pan-european-payments
"But I have iDeal and it's so good" -> It joins Wero https://ideal.nl/en/naar-wero
"My bank doesn't support it" -> Other banks do, switch, maybe?
FYI: "Bancomat, Bizum, EPI, SIBS and Vipps MobilePay sign MoU to accelerate the rollout of sovereign, pan-european payment solutions" https://epicompany.eu/media-insights/bancomat-bizum-epi-sibs-and-vipps-mobilepay-sign-mou-to-accelerate-the-rollout-of-sovereign-pan-european-payment-solutions
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FYI: "Bancomat, Bizum, EPI, SIBS and Vipps MobilePay sign MoU to accelerate the rollout of sovereign, pan-european payment solutions" https://epicompany.eu/media-insights/bancomat-bizum-epi-sibs-and-vipps-mobilepay-sign-mou-to-accelerate-the-rollout-of-sovereign-pan-european-payment-solutions
#wero is cool, but the #digitaleuro is the revolution (for Europe that is, China has a digital yuan already for some time).
On the frontend its all bits over the wire but in the backend it does matter which ledger you ultimately connect to..., i.e., private bank money versus sovereign money.
(Now I go to bed to avoid all the noise about the big brother central bank monitoring all our precious transactions
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