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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly.

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  • lobingera@chaos.socialL lobingera@chaos.social

    @mirabilos @jwildeboer

    My recommendation: If you know better to create a banking app on available infrastructure, get a banking license and start a business.

    EOT

    mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #102

    @lobingera @jwildeboer I merely state my requirements needed for me to not immediately distrust them.

    I’ve no interest in running a business. I’m a programmer, not a beancounter.

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

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      #103

      I use it often to transfer money to friends/family but to replace Visa/Mastercard we’ll need the payment system which is not yet available.
      And to replace PayPal, the vendor website should allow it as an option, so this will take some times.

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

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        #104

        @jwildeboer

        Ich halte persönlich nichts von diesen Diensten.

        Zwar würde ich mir einen Gegensatz zu Stripe oder PayPal wünschen aber davon ist dieses Produkt Lichtjahre entfernt und war es wahrscheinlich auch nicht vorgesehen.

        Es gilt eher zur Überwachung und Kontrolle der bürgerlichen Gelder.

        Sprich: wenn ein Nachbar in der Not mal aushilft.

        Wir müssen die Banken im Auge behalten, nicht umgekehrt !!!

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

          Link Preview Image
          Wero - Digital payment wallet

          Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

          favicon

          (wero-wallet.eu)

          wooshell@chaosfurs.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #105

          @jwildeboer Would be a nice idea, if only my bank would take part in it..

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #106

            @vosje62 ... which is now joining Wero.

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #107

              @baszoetekouw Your freedom. But you should tell them, not me, that the trackers on their website (that you can deny to use) is where your tolerance has its limits.

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                Link Preview Image
                Wero - Digital payment wallet

                Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                favicon

                (wero-wallet.eu)

                bumblebeedc@kind.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #108

                @jwildeboer I for one can't wait for the other features to become available in the Netherlands, would love to ditch PayPal 😁 It sounds really promising and it being (partly) based on iDeal makes me feel confident it's going to perform well ☺️

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                  Link Preview Image
                  Wero - Digital payment wallet

                  Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                  favicon

                  (wero-wallet.eu)

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                  #109

                  @jwildeboer the site says this is “to send and receive money between family and friends”, but we can do this with regular SEPA transfers. I don’t need Visa/Mastercard for that. I couldn’t even use Visa/Mastercard for that if I wanted to.

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                    Link Preview Image
                    Wero - Digital payment wallet

                    Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                    favicon

                    (wero-wallet.eu)

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                    #110

                    @jwildeboer @mischa maybe that page helps as well https://werotracker.eu

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                    • codinggarden@mstdn.socialC codinggarden@mstdn.social

                      @jwildeboer als in Spanien lebender: bizum ist so cool und praktisch und funktioniert. Von Person zu Person, aber auch bei Ikea etc. Ich hoffe wero und bizum finden zusammen… wahrscheinlich nicht…

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                      #111

                      @codingGarden
                      Ich habe keine spanische Bank gefunden 😞
                      Wir müssen abwarten
                      @jwildeboer

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                        Link Preview Image
                        Wero - Digital payment wallet

                        Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                        favicon

                        (wero-wallet.eu)

                        ruthpozuelo@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #112

                        @jwildeboer i dont see a single spanish or swedish bank in there. They have their own solution so, not hopeful about this 😞

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                        • ruthpozuelo@mastodon.socialR ruthpozuelo@mastodon.social

                          @jwildeboer i dont see a single spanish or swedish bank in there. They have their own solution so, not hopeful about this 😞

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                          #113
                          @jwildeboer @ruthpozuelo That's #Bizum. Haven't looked at it but hopefully its not as bad as #Wero - #SEPA payments are the answer.
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                          • ruthpozuelo@mastodon.socialR ruthpozuelo@mastodon.social

                            @jwildeboer i dont see a single spanish or swedish bank in there. They have their own solution so, not hopeful about this 😞

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #114

                            @ruthpozuelo See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/115991964087079997

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              @ruthpozuelo See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/115991964087079997

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                              #115

                              @jwildeboer Moving to another country just to get access to an app seems a bit drastic imo… what do i know 🤷‍♀️

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                              • ruthpozuelo@mastodon.socialR ruthpozuelo@mastodon.social

                                @jwildeboer Moving to another country just to get access to an app seems a bit drastic imo… what do i know 🤷‍♀️

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                                #116

                                @ruthpozuelo Not what I said. EuroPA, the company that also runs Bizum in Spain, is cooperating with Wero, so soon your Spanish Bizum app will work in a lot more countries. No need to move 🙂

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  @ruthpozuelo Not what I said. EuroPA, the company that also runs Bizum in Spain, is cooperating with Wero, so soon your Spanish Bizum app will work in a lot more countries. No need to move 🙂

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #117

                                  @jwildeboer Lovely, I need sweden to cooperate, the app is Swish. Then I could send money to Bizum users.
                                  Till then I am out of options.

                                  Would love for it to work though…

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                                  • ruthpozuelo@mastodon.socialR ruthpozuelo@mastodon.social

                                    @jwildeboer Lovely, I need sweden to cooperate, the app is Swish. Then I could send money to Bizum users.
                                    Till then I am out of options.

                                    Would love for it to work though…

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                                    #118

                                    @ruthpozuelo Swish is free to join Wero, that’s their decision to make. When enough users ask them to, they will.

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Wero - Digital payment wallet

                                      Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                                      favicon

                                      (wero-wallet.eu)

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #119

                                      @jwildeboer

                                      A first step could be that banks offering acceptance of #wero payments stopped making the price a secret.

                                      My advice: start wero with really attractive prices (say, no more than 0.5 to 1% of payment) and make these prices Public.

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                                      • jtuchel@mastodon.socialJ jtuchel@mastodon.social

                                        @jwildeboer

                                        A first step could be that banks offering acceptance of #wero payments stopped making the price a secret.

                                        My advice: start wero with really attractive prices (say, no more than 0.5 to 1% of payment) and make these prices Public.

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #120

                                        @Jtuchel Which fees? Wero for person to person transactions is completely free. If a bank decides to add their own fees, that would be a reason for me to avoid that bank.

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                                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                          @Jtuchel Which fees? Wero for person to person transactions is completely free. If a bank decides to add their own fees, that would be a reason for me to avoid that bank.

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                                          #121

                                          @jwildeboer

                                          I mean the fees for #c2b or #b2b payments.

                                          Wero will not survive with beer table rounds of exchanging a few bucks spontaneously.
                                          Nice gimmick, but not a business model.

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