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I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

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  • gpshewan@mastodon.socialG gpshewan@mastodon.social

    @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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    @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

      I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

      There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

      Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

      One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

      They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

      These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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      @SecurityWriter This is the best thing I’ve read all day!

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      • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

        I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

        There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

        Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

        One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

        They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

        These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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        #18
        I've seen so many AI CEOs or people with close relationships to projects driven by AI getting real mad at the lack of positive sentiment to their work too. See https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416 and https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/423186#issuecomment-3919469369
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        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

          I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

          There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

          Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

          One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

          They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

          These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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          @SecurityWriter #BoycottAI

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          • gparenti@mstdn.socialG gparenti@mstdn.social

            @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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            @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter This is huge. But don't worry, the TOS & EULA you signed to start using the product means you can't sue, and your have to accept arbitration.
            The corp lawyers are covering their asses ( assets.)

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            • gparenti@mstdn.socialG gparenti@mstdn.social

              @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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              @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

              Insurers don’t “forget” to exclude software and AI screw-upsn, they write those exclusions very carefully. Standard business insurance won’t touch losses caused by buggy code or rogue algorithms. If you want coverage for software mistakes, you have to explicitly buy it — otherwise it’s your problem.

              Commercial software for the last 65 years is EXCLUDED from insurance...Exclusions are usually on the first page of software manuals (You lucky this shit runs at all)

              Whats that other thing that makes shit up all the time... hallucination and all that?

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              • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                @SecurityWriter reminds me of the million dollar billboards dotcoms bought weeks before the bubble burst.

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                • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                  @anne_twain @SecurityWriter THEY are the ones that should be replaced by AI

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                  @patrick_h_lauke i know we’re all a bit biased here, but I have legit not heard a single good argument about any downside to replacing these dumbass ceos with an LLM agent. If everyone else keeps their jobs and works competently, in what way would a difference be detectable in the end?

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                  • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                    @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

                    Insurers don’t “forget” to exclude software and AI screw-upsn, they write those exclusions very carefully. Standard business insurance won’t touch losses caused by buggy code or rogue algorithms. If you want coverage for software mistakes, you have to explicitly buy it — otherwise it’s your problem.

                    Commercial software for the last 65 years is EXCLUDED from insurance...Exclusions are usually on the first page of software manuals (You lucky this shit runs at all)

                    Whats that other thing that makes shit up all the time... hallucination and all that?

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                    @n_dimension @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Plenty of insurers are using AI themselves--but they cover their asses by running AI copy/contract terms past their in-house lawyers.

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                    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                      I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                      There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                      Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                      One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                      They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                      These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                      @SecurityWriter this really sounds familiar

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                      • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                        I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                        There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                        Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                        One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                        They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                        These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                        @SecurityWriter Tried to tell a good friend that the AI bubble was a Tech Wreck 2.0 but he was not having it. Sigh.

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                        • gpshewan@mastodon.socialG gpshewan@mastodon.social

                          @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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                          @gpshewan @SecurityWriter That’s what I mean. The CEOs are already beginning the shift to spin what’s coming, to make it more palatable to investors, because the bill is about to come due, and the promises haven’t been kept.

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                          • gpshewan@mastodon.socialG gpshewan@mastodon.social

                            @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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                            @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Another is that at least the US government won't be likely to toss a bailout with the amount of gridlock in DC, so they're not easily going to get dump trucks of free money.

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                            • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                              I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                              There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                              Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                              One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                              They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                              These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                              @SecurityWriter Told my boss I sincerely thought the AI bubble was on the verge of popping and he went home.

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                              • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                @baldur@toot.cafe, here's some hopeful evidence to counter a hopelessness thread you started the other day
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                                • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                  I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                  There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                  Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                  One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                  They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                  These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                  @SecurityWriter @User47 🍿🍿🍿

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                                  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                    I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                    There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                    Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                    One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                    They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                    These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                    @SecurityWriter
                                    Some poor intern will eventually get blamed.

                                    What happens when something goes wrong?
                                    Who's gonna get blamed?
                                    Who's responsible to fix it?
                                    What happens when someone gets injured or killed and the lawyers enter the room?

                                    What happens when they can't get someone to fix it because no one will touch it with a 3.048 m pole?

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                                    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                      I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                      There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                      Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                      One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                      They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                      These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                      @SecurityWriter

                                      One thing I learned, maybe it was this month? State government agencies, some of them, are forcing their employees to use AI stuff so the AI businesses can benefit from government contracts.

                                      A nice lady used AI, and I used my phone to search. I found more stuff than she did. 😛

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                                      • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

                                        @SecurityWriter luckily, I upgraded my home lab systems and added a bunch of memory a year or two ago.

                                        I'm biding my time, there's gonna be cheap gear for liquidation! $200 rack mount servers for everyone!

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                                        @unlofl @SecurityWriter this is a good point that's getting me kind of excited about the future of the web. If hardware floods the market because corporations give up on making AI profitable, and internet users are all tired of the shit those corporations have been pulling with it... I bet we're approaching a turning point towards decentralization and community infrastructure

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                                        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                          I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                          There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                          Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                          One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                          They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                          These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                          @SecurityWriter

                                          Also, the genius who figures out what to do with all that CPU they are building out will be in a good negotiating position.

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