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I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

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  • ramsey@phpc.socialR ramsey@phpc.social

    @gpshewan @SecurityWriter That’s what I’m thinking, too. It’s almost as if you can smell it on the air. The stories CEOs are telling about AI have shifted subtly, which makes me think they know what’s coming.

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    #6

    @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

      I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

      There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

      Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

      One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

      They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

      These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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      #7

      @SecurityWriter luckily, I upgraded my home lab systems and added a bunch of memory a year or two ago.

      I'm biding my time, there's gonna be cheap gear for liquidation! $200 rack mount servers for everyone!

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      • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

        I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

        There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

        Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

        One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

        They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

        These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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        #8

        @SecurityWriter well, if you don’t mine a little scavenging there may be lots of Nvidia things and RAM to be had…

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        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

          I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

          There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

          Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

          One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

          They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

          These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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          #9

          @SecurityWriter Okay the time to trade union is now.

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          • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

            @SecurityWriter Okay the time to trade union is now.

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            #10

            @SecurityWriter Being clear here: this is the time to say "Yeah. We are valuble. But also, let us NEVER let this kind of shit happen again. No producing this style of code. No consuming it. We establish a code of ethics, and anyone we outsource to must be included in this."

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            • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

              I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

              There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

              Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

              One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

              They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

              These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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              @SecurityWriter@infosec.exchange

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              • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                #12

                @SecurityWriter if anyone got news articles with details about stuff like this, I'd be happy to have some to randomly drop into the company slack

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                • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                  I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                  There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                  Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                  One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                  They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                  These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                  #13

                  @SecurityWriter ngl I´m hoping that the detonation of this whole mess lets broke bitches ilke me get server and compute hardware for cheap

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                  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                    I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                    There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                    Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                    One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                    They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                    These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                    #14

                    @SecurityWriter Any clues where used GPUs might show up for sale when the time comes?

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                    • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @anne_twain @SecurityWriter THEY are the ones that should be replaced by AI

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                      • gpshewan@mastodon.socialG gpshewan@mastodon.social

                        @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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                        #16

                        @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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                        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                          I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                          There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                          Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                          One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                          They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                          These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                          @SecurityWriter This is the best thing I’ve read all day!

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                          • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                            I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                            There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                            Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                            One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                            They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                            These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                            I've seen so many AI CEOs or people with close relationships to projects driven by AI getting real mad at the lack of positive sentiment to their work too. See https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416 and https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/423186#issuecomment-3919469369
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                            • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                              I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                              There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                              Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                              One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                              They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                              These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                              @SecurityWriter #BoycottAI

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                              • gparenti@mstdn.socialG gparenti@mstdn.social

                                @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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                                @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter This is huge. But don't worry, the TOS & EULA you signed to start using the product means you can't sue, and your have to accept arbitration.
                                The corp lawyers are covering their asses ( assets.)

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                                • gparenti@mstdn.socialG gparenti@mstdn.social

                                  @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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                                  @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

                                  Insurers don’t “forget” to exclude software and AI screw-upsn, they write those exclusions very carefully. Standard business insurance won’t touch losses caused by buggy code or rogue algorithms. If you want coverage for software mistakes, you have to explicitly buy it — otherwise it’s your problem.

                                  Commercial software for the last 65 years is EXCLUDED from insurance...Exclusions are usually on the first page of software manuals (You lucky this shit runs at all)

                                  Whats that other thing that makes shit up all the time... hallucination and all that?

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                                  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                    I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                    There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                    Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                    One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                    They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                    These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                    @SecurityWriter reminds me of the million dollar billboards dotcoms bought weeks before the bubble burst.

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                                    • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                                      @anne_twain @SecurityWriter THEY are the ones that should be replaced by AI

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                                      @patrick_h_lauke i know we’re all a bit biased here, but I have legit not heard a single good argument about any downside to replacing these dumbass ceos with an LLM agent. If everyone else keeps their jobs and works competently, in what way would a difference be detectable in the end?

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                                      • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                                        @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

                                        Insurers don’t “forget” to exclude software and AI screw-upsn, they write those exclusions very carefully. Standard business insurance won’t touch losses caused by buggy code or rogue algorithms. If you want coverage for software mistakes, you have to explicitly buy it — otherwise it’s your problem.

                                        Commercial software for the last 65 years is EXCLUDED from insurance...Exclusions are usually on the first page of software manuals (You lucky this shit runs at all)

                                        Whats that other thing that makes shit up all the time... hallucination and all that?

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                                        @n_dimension @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Plenty of insurers are using AI themselves--but they cover their asses by running AI copy/contract terms past their in-house lawyers.

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                                        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                                          I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

                                          There’s one silver lining in the mass layoffs, they can’t lay off their absurd investment in power, cooling, and hardware. Loss adjusters and liquidators are rubbing their hands with glee.

                                          Also, many silicon spinners are demanding 5 year agreements on production. It’s go big or go home time, and there will be some casualties.

                                          One org I reluctantly work with pivoted their entire operating model to AI and agents, and they royally screwed their staff over.

                                          They’re now hiring them as consultants at twice their original salary as everything fell on it’s arse, and who knew that go to market suits with a prompt can’t keep infrastructure or business running. Hilariously I know one engineer negotiated a one-sided 12 month contract notice period.

                                          These people are going to get desperate, fast. Fetch the s’mores and let em roast.

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                                          @SecurityWriter this really sounds familiar

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