I saw a wild take where someone said distributions are fascist for using systemd because systemd now uses Claude for code review.

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

I saw a wild take where someone said distributions are fascist for using systemd because systemd now uses Claude for code review.

okay. fine, I guess.

but if we are rejecting dependencies that use AI tooling, where do we go?

seriously. where do we go?

if the Linux kernel is using AI tools for codegen, then where do we go?

FreeBSD? I would put money on it that they use AI tools.

OpenBSD? NetBSD? HURD?

do we hard fork every dependency that is now tainted? do we even have the resources to do it?

FreeBSD and Illumos are the only ones reasonably close in the tech tree and I suspect both use AI tools too, as their development, like Linux, is driven by capital.

[voided@hachyderm.io]

@ariadne redox-os has a no llm policy. But i am not sure how close it is at being production ready

[charlotte@akko.chir.rs]

@ariadne freebsd’s gpu driver code is also either imported from the linux kernel (for the open source drivers) or written by an ai company (nvidia binary driver)

[freya@social.highenergymagic.net]

@ariadne I can almost certainly say that Illumos doesn't, but I take your point

[reinhilde@bv.umbrellix.org]

@ariadne@social.treehouse.systems Bryan Cantrill, considered important by illumos devs, is an AI booster I think

#lang_en

[elizafox@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne Microsoft are heavily using AI internally too. Not to mention they are one of the largest financial backers of AI.

I don't see any mass boycott of Windows.

[starchturrets@mastodon.social]

@ariadne Not to mention browsers...

[bluca@fosstodon.org]

@ariadne there's no "if", the kernel does use LLMs extensively, right now: https://www.theregister.com/2026/03/26/greg_kroahhartman_ai_kernel/ precisely and exactly the same policy as systemd has. LIterally the same. And yet these lunatic takes never demand Linux distros drop Linux. I wonder why ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[frumble@chaos.social]

@ariadne Relevant discussions:

Thom, exceedingly pure (@thomholwerda@exquisite.social)

Both the Linux kernel and systemd now contain slop or are open to adding slop. I have nowhere to go.

Exquisite.social (exquisite.social)

Thom, exceedingly pure (@thomholwerda@exquisite.social)

With both the Linux kernel and systemd infected by "AI" and now also the first steps towards government-mandated age-gating and thus the definitive end of privacy, I feel more done with technology than ever before. I'm just tired, Fedi. I just want to make the pixels go bleep-bloop in weird ways so I can feel smug towards Windows and Apple users. Is that really too much to ask?

Exquisite.social (exquisite.social)

[equinox@chaos.social]

@ariadne I'm (somewhat unwillingly) slowly drifting to "ok, use AI for review, then"… people generally understand and accept you can't have AI both write and review the same code, and between these two choices one is a massive dick move on FOSS maintainers while the other is vaguely stomachable if you don't think about it too much 🫤

[lambda@chaosfurs.social]

@ariadne nah, not fine, actually. It's a complete warping of reality that removes all meaning from the word "fascist" and turns it into nothing but a generic insult - probably not intentionally, but definitely as a means to personally get attention.

[astraleureka@social.treehouse.systems]

@voided @ariadne it's still alpha-grade, "do not trust with important data" level

[xyhhx@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne we'll see what happens when the bubble bursts and prices start reconciling with reality

[lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me]

@ariadne This one is all wack when like what 3~6 months ago there was a pro-systemd jerk being like "anti-systemd are all facists!"

Also yeah in terms of alternatives it's not great, so far I'm stuck with reducing as much as possible and planning to have more stuff like Plan9.
(Also pretty sure Hurd got LLM-tainted)

[c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io]

@ariadne that seems like a stretch.
Ideally, yeah, sure, let’s hard fork everything tainted by LLMs. Practically? Shit if I know. When will people stop using these stupid things?

[astraleureka@social.treehouse.systems]

@lanodan @ariadne oh, is that why hurd just suddenly pushed out amd64 support recently, only a cool 25 years late?

[lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me]

@astraleureka @ariadne IIRC it's SMP rather than 64-bit but same sort of "Huh? Everyone got that stuff, come on"

[astraleureka@social.treehouse.systems]

@lanodan @ariadne if it's smp that's actually even sadder than just now getting amd64 support. its a microkernel. supporting multiple cpus is a pretty major win, lol

[brahms@chaos.social]

@ariadne I see it as a "pick your fight"-thing: before LLMs, most users (me definitely included) had the same problem: we have to trust the maintainers. From my perspective, whether they use such tools or not doesnt really matter, since I cant review 95% of my tech stack anyway ,simply due to lack of time.

i think software will deteriorate in general by using llms extensively, tho proprietary even more so than free software. Unless I find years to spare, the choice is easy.

[lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me]

@astraleureka @ariadne Yeah, checked and it's SMP

Which yeah seems quite ridiculous for a microkernel to only get it now but well Hurd is a zombie project that aged decades.