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Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

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  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

    I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

    nihkeys@mastodontti.fiN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @wwahammy "Well yes, but what if we just don't care about liabilities?"

    (I do care)

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    • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

      I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

      n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @wwahammy

      3 major errors in every 1000 lines of production code I think is the metric.

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      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

        Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

        Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

        This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

        dyrathror@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @wwahammy
        The 'number of lines' count as measure of productivity was already wrong in the 80's ...

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        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

          Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

          Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

          This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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          @wwahammy Sidenote: Anthropic claims many things all the time, many of which later turn out to be lies. I hope this one is a lie.

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          • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

            I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

            W This user is from outside of this forum
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            woo@fosstodon.org
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            @wwahammy Code that writes code, exponentially so.

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            • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

              Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

              Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

              This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

              W This user is from outside of this forum
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              woo@fosstodon.org
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              @wwahammy And power is only cheap in monetary terms, and money is just debt in the form of promises, from people who can't be trusted.

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              • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

                aristot73@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @wwahammy it's only technical debt if coded by humans. AI agents create leverage 🙃

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                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                  Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                  Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                  This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                  @wwahammy but bad makes money faster and cheaper and money makes big man amodei happy!

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                  • dyrathror@mastodon.socialD dyrathror@mastodon.social

                    @wwahammy
                    The 'number of lines' count as measure of productivity was already wrong in the 80's ...

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                    @dyrathror @wwahammy I don't program seriously these days but back in the day (1980s) I used to code in APL.
                    APL was famous for its one liners.
                    So if Claude rewrote my APL code in Rust would it take up less than 8 times as many lines, and would it be as efficient and easier to read?
                    Noting APL one liners were never very easy to read, which is why they were, or should have been, heavily commented.
                    Just asking.

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                    • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                      @wwahammy

                      3 major errors in every 1000 lines of production code I think is the metric.

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                      @n_dimension@infosec.exchange @wwahammy@treehouse.systems That's assuming skilled programmers, not fancy autocorrect generating the code, though.

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                      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                        Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                        Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                        This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                        @wwahammy@treehouse.systems Suddenly reminded of this: https://www.folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html

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                        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                          Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                          Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                          This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

                          hedders@mas.toH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @wwahammy What was it Linus Torvalds said to Linus YouTube?

                          "Anyone who thinks lines of code is a useful metric is too stupid to run a tech company."

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                          • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                            I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

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                            @wwahammy 💯

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                            • bhtooefr@snack.socialB bhtooefr@snack.social

                              @n_dimension@infosec.exchange @wwahammy@treehouse.systems That's assuming skilled programmers, not fancy autocorrect generating the code, though.

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                              @bhtooefr @wwahammy

                              We don't know solid metrics for vibecode.

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