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Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

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  • angelastella@social.treehouse.systemsA angelastella@social.treehouse.systems

    @wwahammy

    We knew that in one way or another for at least half a century.

    But we woke up one fine morning (was it in the nineties?) and we chose violence.

    We're reaping the fucking whirlwind.

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    ginoputrino@mastodon.social
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    @angelastella @wwahammy "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    We've known it for over a century.

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    • G ginoputrino@mastodon.social

      @angelastella @wwahammy "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupery

      We've known it for over a century.

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      @ginoputrino @wwahammy

      True. The window of uncertainty closed somewhere between the thirties and the sixties. (It took some decades to learn the differences between physical and abstract machines.)

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      • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com
        @wwahammy @krutonium Meanwhile, these evil corporations make serious bank on customer PII. 😠
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        @tk @wwahammy @krutonium Yes, they do! Because capitalism turns everything into a commodity. They did so with food, our data, and our intellectual and creative output. And AI is now about securing a means to produce those commodities without needing any humans at all. This is what the so-called "leftists", which are actually humanists, were always fighting against. And that's the reason why capitalists tend to lean towards right-wing ideologies and, often enough, even outright fascism.

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        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

          Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

          Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

          This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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          @wwahammy @mike_bloxam I will never understand the “moar code” crowd. This is not a good thing. How about “moar quality”?

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          • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

            I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

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            @wwahammy "Well yes, but what if we just don't care about liabilities?"

            (I do care)

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            • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

              I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

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              @wwahammy

              3 major errors in every 1000 lines of production code I think is the metric.

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              • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                @wwahammy
                The 'number of lines' count as measure of productivity was already wrong in the 80's ...

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                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                  Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                  Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                  This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                  @wwahammy Sidenote: Anthropic claims many things all the time, many of which later turn out to be lies. I hope this one is a lie.

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                  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                    I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

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                    @wwahammy Code that writes code, exponentially so.

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                    • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                      Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                      Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                      This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                      @wwahammy And power is only cheap in monetary terms, and money is just debt in the form of promises, from people who can't be trusted.

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                      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                        Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                        Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                        This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                        @wwahammy it's only technical debt if coded by humans. AI agents create leverage 🙃

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                        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                          Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                          Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                          This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                          @wwahammy but bad makes money faster and cheaper and money makes big man amodei happy!

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                          • dyrathror@mastodon.socialD dyrathror@mastodon.social

                            @wwahammy
                            The 'number of lines' count as measure of productivity was already wrong in the 80's ...

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                            @dyrathror @wwahammy I don't program seriously these days but back in the day (1980s) I used to code in APL.
                            APL was famous for its one liners.
                            So if Claude rewrote my APL code in Rust would it take up less than 8 times as many lines, and would it be as efficient and easier to read?
                            Noting APL one liners were never very easy to read, which is why they were, or should have been, heavily commented.
                            Just asking.

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                            • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                              @wwahammy

                              3 major errors in every 1000 lines of production code I think is the metric.

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                              @n_dimension@infosec.exchange @wwahammy@treehouse.systems That's assuming skilled programmers, not fancy autocorrect generating the code, though.

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                              • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                                Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                                This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                                @wwahammy@treehouse.systems Suddenly reminded of this: https://www.folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html

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                                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                  Anthropic claims its engineers are shipping 8x as much code per quarter now as they did in 2022.

                                  Unless you have 8x as many reviewers, that's bad. Like not just a little bad, but really bad.

                                  This is such a house of cards built on debt and cheap power.

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                                  @wwahammy What was it Linus Torvalds said to Linus YouTube?

                                  "Anyone who thinks lines of code is a useful metric is too stupid to run a tech company."

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                                  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                    I don't know how to yell this any louder: EVERY LINE OF CODE IS A LIABILITY.

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                                    @wwahammy 💯

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                                    • bhtooefr@snack.socialB bhtooefr@snack.social

                                      @n_dimension@infosec.exchange @wwahammy@treehouse.systems That's assuming skilled programmers, not fancy autocorrect generating the code, though.

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                                      @bhtooefr @wwahammy

                                      We don't know solid metrics for vibecode.

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