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For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

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  • thedaemon@snac.9front.clubT thedaemon@snac.9front.club
    CC: @darth@silversword.online I don't know about tilt as I don't know if I've ever used it or have it, but yes on pressure. It uses same drivers as Linux.
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    @thedaemon @darth

    I may have to poke at that. Thanks. 😃

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    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

      For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

      You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

      #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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      @darth @stefano

      Servers: OpenBSD and FreeBSD
      Laptops: MacOS and OpenBSD
      Gaming: Arch Linux

      I prefer OpenBSD but will use the tool best suited for the job at hand.

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      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

        recoveredexpert@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @darth Maybe it‘s worth adding that you mean „Desktop“ (or Laptop) when you‘re talking about „daily driver“.

        I might be weird, but my „daily driving“ in OS terms involves a lot more than my Desktop OS. There‘s my FreeBSD router and my home server doing a lot of the important parts enabling my „daily driving“.

        That‘s just at home, not counting (my own hardware) in datacenters.
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        • recoveredexpert@mastodon.socialR recoveredexpert@mastodon.social

          @darth Maybe it‘s worth adding that you mean „Desktop“ (or Laptop) when you‘re talking about „daily driver“.

          I might be weird, but my „daily driving“ in OS terms involves a lot more than my Desktop OS. There‘s my FreeBSD router and my home server doing a lot of the important parts enabling my „daily driving“.

          That‘s just at home, not counting (my own hardware) in datacenters.
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          @darth When all I needed was a terminal and a basic browser I also had FreeBSD running on my desktop since FreeBSD 1.1-RELEASE. As my needs grew, I started playing w/ MacOS 10.2 and made it my primary desktop around 10.3. I would prefer FreeBSD or any BSD, but that‘s not possible and probably won‘t for a while. Util that changes, I‘m on MacOS as it has enough BSD‘isms under the hood in terminal I when I can‘t run an actual BSD to do *nix stuff. That helps me stay (somewhat) somewhat sane.
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          • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

            For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

            You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

            #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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            #61

            @darth #OpenBSD since 2014, current on my desktop, servers are running the recent release.

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            • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

              For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

              You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

              #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

              filis@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #62

              @darth using FreeBSD on servers since about 2000, daily driving it on laptop and desktop since about 2017

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              • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                #63

                @darth@silversword.online My main workstation OS is MacOS. I don't see any other OS substituting my Logic Pro X setup.
                My main server OS is FreeBSD. Down the road, I plan to pick up a dedicated laptop specifically for running local LLMs.

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                • yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.orgY yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @darth That's exactly right—I switched to #DragonFlyBSD as my main OS as soon as Linux started stinking up with systemd. Now I'm using #FreeBSD

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                  @yrabbit systemd’s introduction and the problems it caused at the time was why I switched off Ubuntu at the time too @darth

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                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                    @darth My main laptop, where I doing almost all computing now, running #FreeBSD for (checks notes) 6 years.

                    For homelab server(s) I'm using #NetBSD because it runs everywhere

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                    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                      For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                      You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                      #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                      @darth@silversword.online I'm been using FreeBSD for my home lab and OpenBSD on my laptop for years now.
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                      • outofcreativity@exquisite.socialO outofcreativity@exquisite.social

                        @darth

                        My Laptop is running OpenBSD since some years and I'm really happy with it.

                        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                        #67

                        @outofcreativity @darth Same.

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                        • daemonhunter@billboard.bsd.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @darth@silversword.online The only preference I have is tokens/s and it must be on FreeBSD. 🙂

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                          • glassblowerscat@wandering.shopG glassblowerscat@wandering.shop

                            @darth
                            Technically, MacOS is a BSD OS 😈.

                            @miah

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                            @glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.

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                            • miah@hachyderm.ioM miah@hachyderm.io

                              @glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.

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                              @miah
                              Haha, not going to argue with that.
                              @darth

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                              • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                @darth
                                #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                                • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                                  @darth
                                  #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                                  @bryan @darth

                                  My apologies for any offence - I had not realised.

                                  Henceforth I will try to remember to explicitly label DarthMahmood.

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                                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                    @darth Ayer instale freeBSD 15 en mi equipo de escritorio con XFCE, y estoy encantado por como ha mejorado el sistema, todo lo ha reconocido y funciona de maravilla, solo me falta montar una Unidad SSD en UFS para mis archivos e instalar las aplicaciones de uso diario, y por último probar suerte si puedo instalar mis juegos de GOG.

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                                      @darth @glassblowerscat

                                      Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.

                                      I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.

                                      As far as certification goes..

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                                        @darth
                                        Weirdly, MacOS is the last operating system that does have UNIX certification!
                                        @miah

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                                        • miah@hachyderm.ioM miah@hachyderm.io

                                          @darth @glassblowerscat

                                          Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.

                                          I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.

                                          As far as certification goes..

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Apple’s macOS UNIX certification is a lie – OSnews

                                          favicon

                                          (www.osnews.com)

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                                          @miah I’ve used Macs since high school, often exclusively. I love the Mac. But it is also true that the design and usability has gone downhill.

                                          This “UNIX certification is a lie” post has real No True Scotsman toxic Linux culture vibes to me, but it is also true that MacOS today is a far cry from the much more UNIX-y OS 10.1 days. I think the conclusion is probably correct: MacOS is still UNIX certified because someone somewhere in the company still cares, even if no one else does.

                                          @darth

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