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For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

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  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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    #63

    @darth@silversword.online My main workstation OS is MacOS. I don't see any other OS substituting my Logic Pro X setup.
    My main server OS is FreeBSD. Down the road, I plan to pick up a dedicated laptop specifically for running local LLMs.

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    • yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.orgY yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.org

      @darth That's exactly right—I switched to #DragonFlyBSD as my main OS as soon as Linux started stinking up with systemd. Now I'm using #FreeBSD

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      @yrabbit systemd’s introduction and the problems it caused at the time was why I switched off Ubuntu at the time too @darth

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      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

        evgandr@mastodon.bsd.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #65

        @darth My main laptop, where I doing almost all computing now, running #FreeBSD for (checks notes) 6 years.

        For homelab server(s) I'm using #NetBSD because it runs everywhere

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        • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

          For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

          You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

          #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

          geezabiscuit@snac.theunwashed.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #66
          @darth@silversword.online I'm been using FreeBSD for my home lab and OpenBSD on my laptop for years now.
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          • outofcreativity@exquisite.socialO outofcreativity@exquisite.social

            @darth

            My Laptop is running OpenBSD since some years and I'm really happy with it.

            #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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            #67

            @outofcreativity @darth Same.

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            • daemonhunter@billboard.bsd.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #68

              @darth@silversword.online The only preference I have is tokens/s and it must be on FreeBSD. 🙂

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              • glassblowerscat@wandering.shopG glassblowerscat@wandering.shop

                @darth
                Technically, MacOS is a BSD OS 😈.

                @miah

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                #69

                @glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.

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                • miah@hachyderm.ioM miah@hachyderm.io

                  @glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.

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                  #70

                  @miah
                  Haha, not going to argue with that.
                  @darth

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                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

                    bryan@dusty.ninjaB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #71

                    @darth
                    #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                    • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                      @darth
                      #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                      #72

                      @bryan @darth

                      My apologies for any offence - I had not realised.

                      Henceforth I will try to remember to explicitly label DarthMahmood.

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                      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                        #73

                        @darth Ayer instale freeBSD 15 en mi equipo de escritorio con XFCE, y estoy encantado por como ha mejorado el sistema, todo lo ha reconocido y funciona de maravilla, solo me falta montar una Unidad SSD en UFS para mis archivos e instalar las aplicaciones de uso diario, y por último probar suerte si puedo instalar mis juegos de GOG.

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                        • miah@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @darth @glassblowerscat

                          Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.

                          I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.

                          As far as certification goes..

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                            @darth
                            Weirdly, MacOS is the last operating system that does have UNIX certification!
                            @miah

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                            • miah@hachyderm.ioM miah@hachyderm.io

                              @darth @glassblowerscat

                              Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.

                              I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.

                              As far as certification goes..

                              Link Preview Image
                              Apple’s macOS UNIX certification is a lie – OSnews

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                              (www.osnews.com)

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                              @miah I’ve used Macs since high school, often exclusively. I love the Mac. But it is also true that the design and usability has gone downhill.

                              This “UNIX certification is a lie” post has real No True Scotsman toxic Linux culture vibes to me, but it is also true that MacOS today is a far cry from the much more UNIX-y OS 10.1 days. I think the conclusion is probably correct: MacOS is still UNIX certified because someone somewhere in the company still cares, even if no one else does.

                              @darth

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                              • glassblowerscat@wandering.shopG glassblowerscat@wandering.shop

                                @miah I’ve used Macs since high school, often exclusively. I love the Mac. But it is also true that the design and usability has gone downhill.

                                This “UNIX certification is a lie” post has real No True Scotsman toxic Linux culture vibes to me, but it is also true that MacOS today is a far cry from the much more UNIX-y OS 10.1 days. I think the conclusion is probably correct: MacOS is still UNIX certified because someone somewhere in the company still cares, even if no one else does.

                                @darth

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                                @glassblowerscat @darth Ya I'd agree with that assessment.

                                I wouldn't say I love the mac these days. It feels very locked in and not very 'hacker friendly'. I _rarely_ modify / manage macos via some cli interfaces / etc files etc. Its possible I could do this, but the way the system is designed it doesn't feel like "the way". It just doesn't feel like its "for me" in any way these days, other than "I can create a terminal window and launch ssh to the system I actually do development on".

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                                • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                  For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                  You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                  #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                  #78
                                  I personally don't believe that Linux will be a safe alternative in the near future at the rate the community has been getting politicized. *BSD has and likely will be a fallback for me in the worst case scenario.

                                  @darth@silversword.online
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                                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                    @darth From the way you have phrased this, I take it you are truly bothered that someone could hypothetically use BSD on 1,000 servers but are hypocrites for not using BSD on the system they manage them from?

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                                    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                      For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                      You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                      #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                      f451@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                                      #80

                                      @darth Workstation is FreeBSD. I read most of the email I get via mutt on OpenBSD, on a rpi4b

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                                      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

                                        rubenerd@bsd.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #81

                                        @darth

                                        Great question. My daily driver is my work-provided machine, which runs macOS.

                                        My "personal" daily driver is a ThinkPad with FreeBSD, and a writing machine with NetBSD.

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                                        • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                          For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                          You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                          #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                          #82

                                          @darth OpenBSD on my main notebook

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