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  • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

    @hex I have lots of other staff thoughts, but that's probably a conversation for later.

    Staff comes with headaches you might not be anticipating (payroll processors, workers comp, PTO, UPTO, ETC) but if you can make the numbers work to hire 1-2 people to supplement yourself, it makes the process of running a business so much less miserable.

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    @ajroach42 i have experience working with volunteers but not a legit staff. it’d be a learning experience for sure

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    • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

      @hex

      6) Hours:

      It's hard to keep a media based business open 9 - 5.

      Evenings and weekends are where the people are.

      You kind of have to be open during the day, even though that's not when the bulk of your sales are going to happen, because that's when your biggest sales are going to happen, and that's when your deliveries will happen, and that's when promotional work can happen, etc.

      Our first record store was originally *only* open evenings and weekends, and I didn't realize how much of a difference it would be to extend the hours out.

      That being said: knowing that you will do more volume on the evenings and weekends than you will during the day during the week, you can plan strategies to maximize your revenue and customer retention for the folks who can come in during the day. Figure out how to get the folks who can be in in daylight in multiple days a week. Figure out how to get them to give you some money every time they walk through the door. (I have more thoughts on this, but I have to go get the pizza.)

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      @hex Okay, I have the pizza now.

      Where were we?

      Ah, 6 continued)

      I'm mostly talking about this from the perspective of sales, because even when we offered rental, the vast majority of our income was sales.

      It might be different for you. I've heard it is different for other video stores.

      Regardless of if your primary business is sales or rental, you'll have to figure out how to turn foot traffic into dollars. It'll take six months or so before you can effectively identify when you'll actually be busy, and then how to turn busy into money.

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      • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

        @hex Okay, I have the pizza now.

        Where were we?

        Ah, 6 continued)

        I'm mostly talking about this from the perspective of sales, because even when we offered rental, the vast majority of our income was sales.

        It might be different for you. I've heard it is different for other video stores.

        Regardless of if your primary business is sales or rental, you'll have to figure out how to turn foot traffic into dollars. It'll take six months or so before you can effectively identify when you'll actually be busy, and then how to turn busy into money.

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        @hex 1 (revisited))

        If you're already making DVD-Rs and BD-Rs on site, you can get away with ...

        Well, I guess the best way to say it is that the video rental store in Atlanta has a Turkish Knockoff section, and a bunch of fan-subbed bollywood films.

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          @hex 1 (revisited))

          If you're already making DVD-Rs and BD-Rs on site, you can get away with ...

          Well, I guess the best way to say it is that the video rental store in Atlanta has a Turkish Knockoff section, and a bunch of fan-subbed bollywood films.

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          @hex

          7) Expenses.

          It's really hard to estimate business expenses until your at it, but you're looking at, probably:

          - rent
          - power
          - water
          - gas (maybe?)
          - renters insurance
          - payment processor fees
          - payroll processor fees
          - payroll
          - payroll taxes
          - possibly ad valorem taxes depending on your jurisdiction (we have a 2% inventory and equipment ad valorem at the city level.)

          And then I would highly recommend an accountant, unless you're very good at paperwork and willing to get deep into local laws.

          To open, you're also going to need inventory and fixtures, and I highly recommend budgeting extensively for marketing when you first open up.

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          • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

            @hex

            7) Expenses.

            It's really hard to estimate business expenses until your at it, but you're looking at, probably:

            - rent
            - power
            - water
            - gas (maybe?)
            - renters insurance
            - payment processor fees
            - payroll processor fees
            - payroll
            - payroll taxes
            - possibly ad valorem taxes depending on your jurisdiction (we have a 2% inventory and equipment ad valorem at the city level.)

            And then I would highly recommend an accountant, unless you're very good at paperwork and willing to get deep into local laws.

            To open, you're also going to need inventory and fixtures, and I highly recommend budgeting extensively for marketing when you first open up.

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            @hex Join the local chamber of commerce. Go to some meetings. Meet some people. Make them do a ribbon cutting, if that's something they do in your area.

            IF there's another city within three in any direction that has a more active Chamber of Commerce, consider joining theirs as well if you can benefit from their marketing.

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            • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

              @hex Join the local chamber of commerce. Go to some meetings. Meet some people. Make them do a ribbon cutting, if that's something they do in your area.

              IF there's another city within three in any direction that has a more active Chamber of Commerce, consider joining theirs as well if you can benefit from their marketing.

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              @hex I'm running out of steam now that I have pizza in me.

              I'm going to toss out a few more disconnected thoughts, and then offer myself up for questions.

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                @hex I'm running out of steam now that I have pizza in me.

                I'm going to toss out a few more disconnected thoughts, and then offer myself up for questions.

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                @ajroach42 thanks!! i really appreciate all this. i’m gonna review more and send questions as they come my way. i’m also going to take some time to percolate on all this

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                • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

                  @hex I'm running out of steam now that I have pizza in me.

                  I'm going to toss out a few more disconnected thoughts, and then offer myself up for questions.

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                  @hex Instagram is a super valuable marketing avenue.

                  I hate that this is true, but it is. You need to get hooked up with your local retro influencers. I guarantee you have some VHS/DVD folks in your area who would provide a bunch of free advertising in exchange for very little (shoutouts, a tag, some swag, etc.)

                  Figure out who they are, and where they hang out and make sure they know about your shop.

                  Our local (atlanta) retro community does regular meetups, toy swaps, sidewalk sales, etc. It is absolutely worth attending those and getting to know the people there.

                  Go pick (buy stuff), but also pay attention to what people are buying and what people are selling. Shake hands, pass out cards. If you have the space in your new shop, offer to host.

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                  • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

                    @hex Instagram is a super valuable marketing avenue.

                    I hate that this is true, but it is. You need to get hooked up with your local retro influencers. I guarantee you have some VHS/DVD folks in your area who would provide a bunch of free advertising in exchange for very little (shoutouts, a tag, some swag, etc.)

                    Figure out who they are, and where they hang out and make sure they know about your shop.

                    Our local (atlanta) retro community does regular meetups, toy swaps, sidewalk sales, etc. It is absolutely worth attending those and getting to know the people there.

                    Go pick (buy stuff), but also pay attention to what people are buying and what people are selling. Shake hands, pass out cards. If you have the space in your new shop, offer to host.

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                    @hex Unless you know the market super well, don't get into comic books or trading cards or most vintage video games.

                    Those are incredibly competitive, vicious markets with the most difficult customers you'll ever find.

                    (I say that as a guy who has been a difficult, vicious customer at a comic shop and a video game store.)

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                    • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

                      @hex Unless you know the market super well, don't get into comic books or trading cards or most vintage video games.

                      Those are incredibly competitive, vicious markets with the most difficult customers you'll ever find.

                      (I say that as a guy who has been a difficult, vicious customer at a comic shop and a video game store.)

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                      @hex The exception to the above is anywhere that you can tap into the mass market or overlap directly with your video market.

                      Where the mass market overlaps with these specialty markets is at the low/cheap end.

                      But, even then, I'd bring a good deal of caution.

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                      • ajroach42@retro.socialA ajroach42@retro.social

                        @hex The exception to the above is anywhere that you can tap into the mass market or overlap directly with your video market.

                        Where the mass market overlaps with these specialty markets is at the low/cheap end.

                        But, even then, I'd bring a good deal of caution.

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                        @hex beyond that, though, I *heartily* recommend considering toys.

                        The overlap between the toy market and the video market is pretty big. A lot of the best toys currently being produced for the collectors market are directly targeting video collectors up to and including doing VHS packaging for their toys.

                        Super 7 and NECA are the companies to look at, and both offer decent wholesale pricing.

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                          @hex beyond that, though, I *heartily* recommend considering toys.

                          The overlap between the toy market and the video market is pretty big. A lot of the best toys currently being produced for the collectors market are directly targeting video collectors up to and including doing VHS packaging for their toys.

                          Super 7 and NECA are the companies to look at, and both offer decent wholesale pricing.

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                          @hex My favorite video store does not do rentals.

                          They are Orbit DVD in Asheville NC.

                          I recommend taking a look at what they do, because they are incredible.

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                            @hex My favorite video store does not do rentals.

                            They are Orbit DVD in Asheville NC.

                            I recommend taking a look at what they do, because they are incredible.

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                            @hex Books.

                            Getting set up with Ingram as a book distributor is an absolute pain in the ass, but I'd recommend doing it, even if you're mostly going to carry rental videos.

                            The reason for that is books like this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/how-the-world-remade-hollywood-global-interpretations-of-65-iconic-films-glaser-ed/

                            and this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/tcm-underground-50-must-see-films-from-the-world-of-classic-cult-and-late-night-cinema-de-chirico-millie-paperback/

                            and this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/the-hollywood-meme-transnational-adaptations-in-world-cinema-smith-iain-robert/

                            and ... you get the idea.

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                              @hex Books.

                              Getting set up with Ingram as a book distributor is an absolute pain in the ass, but I'd recommend doing it, even if you're mostly going to carry rental videos.

                              The reason for that is books like this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/how-the-world-remade-hollywood-global-interpretations-of-65-iconic-films-glaser-ed/

                              and this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/tcm-underground-50-must-see-films-from-the-world-of-classic-cult-and-late-night-cinema-de-chirico-millie-paperback/

                              and this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/the-hollywood-meme-transnational-adaptations-in-world-cinema-smith-iain-robert/

                              and ... you get the idea.

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                              @hex I think that's all I got for now.

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                                @hex Books.

                                Getting set up with Ingram as a book distributor is an absolute pain in the ass, but I'd recommend doing it, even if you're mostly going to carry rental videos.

                                The reason for that is books like this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/how-the-world-remade-hollywood-global-interpretations-of-65-iconic-films-glaser-ed/

                                and this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/tcm-underground-50-must-see-films-from-the-world-of-classic-cult-and-late-night-cinema-de-chirico-millie-paperback/

                                and this: https://www.hemlockbazaar.com/product/the-hollywood-meme-transnational-adaptations-in-world-cinema-smith-iain-robert/

                                and ... you get the idea.

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                                @ajroach42 i absolutely love this idea. i’m literally watching the documentary 1000 Women of Horror based on the book of the same name right now and having this on the shelf next to books like that and Men, Women, and Chainsaws feels like the corner that has love for media that i want to foster

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                                  @ajroach42 i absolutely love this idea. i’m literally watching the documentary 1000 Women of Horror based on the book of the same name right now and having this on the shelf next to books like that and Men, Women, and Chainsaws feels like the corner that has love for media that i want to foster

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                                  @hex Check out I Spit on Your Celluloid

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                                    @hex Check out I Spit on Your Celluloid

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                                    @ajroach42 👀 👀 also i checked out Super 7 and NECA and i can see the appeal for sure

                                    i still dont know how ambitious launch should be, so i dunno if toys will be there from the start but the idea of books, films, merch, and food all being available is hitting the mark with me - give folks as many opportunities to walk away with something

                                    though i saw Super 7 had blind boxes and i know thats a surefire way to get a kid ask for something

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                                      i’m simultaneously going “i don’t know if i should carry modern shows” and going “well Of Course we’d have all of Columbo”

                                      also just made the unilateral decision that “no, we *don’t* need to carry the wizard movies”

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                                      i think i want to go with something along the lines of Physical Video or Corporeal Video for the name of the store

                                      something indicating that this is a place where physical goods are sold. enshrining physical media

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                                        i think i want to go with something along the lines of Physical Video or Corporeal Video for the name of the store

                                        something indicating that this is a place where physical goods are sold. enshrining physical media

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                                        @hex Hard Video

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                                          @hex Hard Video

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                                          @kev lmao same reason i’m worried about “Physical Video”

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