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  • stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
    stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Age restriction is not a solution for young kids addicted to social media

    The solution is to put a wrecking ball to the exploiting algorithms that try to keep these kids on the platforms for as long as possible to show them as many ads as possible

    Age verification is just another tool to keep taps on everyone

    Start with the root of the problem and knock on doors from Meta to start with

    stux@mstdn.socialS randamumaki@mstdn.socialR dch@bsd.networkD gokushrm@mastodon.socialG largo@mstdn.socialL 7 Replies Last reply
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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      Age restriction is not a solution for young kids addicted to social media

      The solution is to put a wrecking ball to the exploiting algorithms that try to keep these kids on the platforms for as long as possible to show them as many ads as possible

      Age verification is just another tool to keep taps on everyone

      Start with the root of the problem and knock on doors from Meta to start with

      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stux@mstdn.social
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      #2

      Many adults are also addicted to social media, this would also help in solving that

      Just because you turn a certain age it’s suddenly okay to be glued to the screen all day and spoon fed content decided by the companies

      Lets be real, the problem is not age per se, its the social media companies these days

      stux@mstdn.socialS zombiecide@polyglot.cityZ grootinside@troet.cafeG naishtocoto@mastodon.socialN 4 Replies Last reply
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      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

        Age restriction is not a solution for young kids addicted to social media

        The solution is to put a wrecking ball to the exploiting algorithms that try to keep these kids on the platforms for as long as possible to show them as many ads as possible

        Age verification is just another tool to keep taps on everyone

        Start with the root of the problem and knock on doors from Meta to start with

        randamumaki@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        randamumaki@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        randamumaki@mstdn.social
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        #3

        @stux How about locking the doors to Meta's offices or razing them to the ground instead? Rotten company.

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          Many adults are also addicted to social media, this would also help in solving that

          Just because you turn a certain age it’s suddenly okay to be glued to the screen all day and spoon fed content decided by the companies

          Lets be real, the problem is not age per se, its the social media companies these days

          stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
          stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
          stux@mstdn.social
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          #4

          I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

          If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

          Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

          raffkarva@sunny.gardenR nf3xn@mastodon.socialN colmdonoghue@mastodon.ieC P stonebear2@hachyderm.ioS 9 Replies Last reply
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          • randamumaki@mstdn.socialR randamumaki@mstdn.social

            @stux How about locking the doors to Meta's offices or razing them to the ground instead? Rotten company.

            stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
            stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @RandamuMaki Maybe we can launch Meta HQ back to its original planet 🚀

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            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

              @RandamuMaki Maybe we can launch Meta HQ back to its original planet 🚀

              randamumaki@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @stux I'm sure the Vogons will be happy to get it back.

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                Many adults are also addicted to social media, this would also help in solving that

                Just because you turn a certain age it’s suddenly okay to be glued to the screen all day and spoon fed content decided by the companies

                Lets be real, the problem is not age per se, its the social media companies these days

                zombiecide@polyglot.cityZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @stux for some reason I just imagined an algorithmic timeline that has to prominently explain why a certain post is shown

                'you see this ad for adult diapers because 234 days ago you used search engine xyz to seach for 'in continent ants joke' which was aggregated by companies yz and zx, we bought data from them on (day) and paid (money) for it, used model iaia to sort you into following ad categories: ...
                the display of this ad earns us (money)

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                  If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                  Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

                  raffkarva@sunny.gardenR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  raffkarva@sunny.garden
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                  @stux

                  If it were about protecting children online, we'd be teaching them how to use VPNs and zero-knowledge DNS filtering.

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                  • raffkarva@sunny.gardenR raffkarva@sunny.garden

                    @stux

                    If it were about protecting children online, we'd be teaching them how to use VPNs and zero-knowledge DNS filtering.

                    stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @RaffKarva Digital self-defense

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      Many adults are also addicted to social media, this would also help in solving that

                      Just because you turn a certain age it’s suddenly okay to be glued to the screen all day and spoon fed content decided by the companies

                      Lets be real, the problem is not age per se, its the social media companies these days

                      grootinside@troet.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @stux
                      Imho the problem is the everywhere online promoted mindset only attention counts and not facts or how you are or what you do irl.

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                        If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                        Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

                        nf3xn@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @stux

                        The problem is that we have two fundamentally irreconcilable requirements.

                        1. Privacy
                        2. Security

                        Pick one.

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                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                          I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                          If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                          Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

                          colmdonoghue@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          colmdonoghue@mastodon.ie
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                          @stux the way I've seen this done now, is
                          If it's not safe for a 5 year old ban it until a person is 18+

                          Which seems a poor choice indeed

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                          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                            I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                            If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                            Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

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                            patricus@gts.posix.live
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                            @stux age verification stuff is more dangerous than the addiction itself.

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                              @stux age verification stuff is more dangerous than the addiction itself.

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                              @stux why we're fighting fire with gasoline is beyond my understanding. but maybe I'm not stupid enough to understand this.

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                                If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                                Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

                                stonebear2@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @stux I like the way you think, sir.

                                It's kinda like having a low drinking age. If the kids learn how not to go overboard BEFORE they learn to drive? they're so much more likely not to do it! (Crashing a bicycle usually hurts a lot less, for less long... )

                                Take away the taboo, teach responsible usage, there ya go...

                                (I remember in economics class in high school, back last century, we learned about types of ads, deceptive practices, etc.... I doubt they teach that in school anymore in America. Here? I seem to recall the Finns do, IDK if the Dutch do or not... )

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                                • nf3xn@mastodon.socialN nf3xn@mastodon.social

                                  @stux

                                  The problem is that we have two fundamentally irreconcilable requirements.

                                  1. Privacy
                                  2. Security

                                  Pick one.

                                  stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @nf3xn We need to teach kids about those two

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                                    If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                                    Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

                                    betaphish@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @stux This is so close to being the war on drugs

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      Many adults are also addicted to social media, this would also help in solving that

                                      Just because you turn a certain age it’s suddenly okay to be glued to the screen all day and spoon fed content decided by the companies

                                      Lets be real, the problem is not age per se, its the social media companies these days

                                      naishtocoto@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      naishtocoto@mastodon.social
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                                      #18

                                      @stux Here in Brazil some people are trying to end the infinite scroll. Idk if it's going to be only to kids or anything like that, but at least it's a great first step.

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        @nf3xn We need to teach kids about those two

                                        nf3xn@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @stux I think it high suspicious that all these countries suddenly show an interest in chat control and age verification everywhere and all at once when clearly different countries have entirely different tolerances. And I would have more grounds than most people to be. The "Lions, Tigers and Bears" has always been "Criminals, Terrorists and Pedos". Legitimate concerns wrapping something more sinister omitting an even worse threat: Fascists, who ironically are usually all of the above. /1

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                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          I would even argue that’s it’s more harmful to keep kids off of social media

                                          If they gain no experience whatsoever and dive in on their 18th birthday in the current state.. well

                                          Instead of banning it, how about teaching about it

                                          tornuggla@masto.e-tuna.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @stux

                                          Second that. And since we are having a hard time to effectively fight the algorithm data mining companies, I'd like to see state and local authorities to set up their own masto/ppertube etc and also in the idea of public service make and fund content for the fediverse.

                                          I'd like to move my kids from YT to the fediverse, but there's almost nothing there that could remotely interest them. And me alone, I can't find or aggregate what little there is.

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