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You know how a gambler who loses it all starts begging his family for cash or putting their house up for a loan?

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  • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

    @nixCraft if only oracle could go bankrupt and take tiktok US with them.

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    @lexinova i read somewhere kids are quitting TikTok due all sort of stuff happening .. i never used that app so no idea. lol.

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      @lexinova i read somewhere kids are quitting TikTok due all sort of stuff happening .. i never used that app so no idea. lol.

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      @nixCraft don't know either, but that would precipitate the process xD

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      • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

        @nixCraft if only oracle could go bankrupt and take tiktok US with them.

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        @lexinova @nixCraft
        unfortunately I don't think Oracle will go under, they have friends in high places...

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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          @nixCraft @infosec812 Ed was right

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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            @nixCraft is the bubble bursting already?

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              these are early signs that the AI bubble is about to pop (combined with wars and tariff biz). When it does, it won’t just sink those "Plagiarism Machine" startups, it will create a massive problems for the whole IT/tech industry and it will even hurt other businesses too. It's going to be so bad that the Great Depression of 1929 will look like a walk in the park.

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              @nixCraft It's already causing problems for the tech industry (see for example Valve further delaying their new hardware products and having stock problems with the Steam Deck). But when it pops, things are going to get a lot worse.

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                @nixCraft @nivrig The big risk is when the software companies fold, Oracle is stuck with the infrastructure bill and real estate. Oracle raced to land grab with limited upside and all the risk.

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                  @nixCraft

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                  • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                    @nixCraft don't know either, but that would precipitate the process xD

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                    @lexinova @nixCraft read somewhere (guardian?) there is supposedly an increase in sales for chinese language primers in the US. wouldn’t surprise me.

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                      • coostax@fosstodon.orgC coostax@fosstodon.org

                        @lexinova @nixCraft
                        unfortunately I don't think Oracle will go under, they have friends in high places...

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                        @coostax @lexinova @nixCraft Indeed. Oracle is to big to fail™️, and the fascists need the Ellisons for their propaganda

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                          @nixCraft

                          Feel bad for the folks that were working there, but also, fuck Oracle.

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                          • keyboardg@mastodon.socialK keyboardg@mastodon.social

                            @nixCraft @nivrig The big risk is when the software companies fold, Oracle is stuck with the infrastructure bill and real estate. Oracle raced to land grab with limited upside and all the risk.

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                            @keyboardg @nixCraft @nivrig wow 30k that is going to
                            Be noticed. I haven't seen numbers like that since 2008, Cisco had some layoff in that range.

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                            • marco@mastodon.skup.inM marco@mastodon.skup.in

                              @nixCraft on one hand it makes me very happy to see the AI bubble burst, but it's incredibly sad to see that workers are the ones to suffer again

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                              @marco @nixCraft We're fungible assets on the balance sheet. We don't matter.

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                              • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                                @marco @nixCraft will not be a burst, but more a market correction.

                                meaning 80 - 90 % of AI startup and company will go bankrupt, while other will take a major hit.

                                AI will not disapear (like the web during the .com bubble) did not disapear.

                                but only actually usefull feature will remain (not many).

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                                @lexinova @marco @nixCraft Are these actually useful features in the room with us now?

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                                  @nixCraft the only good AI that will stick around will be Gemini the rest will crumble.

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                                    @nixCraft

                                    Oracle firing 30,000 employees because banks refuse to finance its AI expansion?

                                    LOL. Like any large corporation, it will take any step that allows it to avoid admitting that its own management makes supremely bad decisions.

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                                    • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                                      @marco @nixCraft will not be a burst, but more a market correction.

                                      meaning 80 - 90 % of AI startup and company will go bankrupt, while other will take a major hit.

                                      AI will not disapear (like the web during the .com bubble) did not disapear.

                                      but only actually usefull feature will remain (not many).

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                                      @lexinova interesting, What's the difference between the metaphor of a bubble bursting Vs a dramatic market correction?

                                      @marco @nixCraft

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                                      • tkissing@mastodon.socialT tkissing@mastodon.social

                                        @lexinova @marco @nixCraft Are these actually useful features in the room with us now?

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                                        @tkissing @lexinova @marco @nixCraft Kyllä ovat

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          You know how a gambler who loses it all starts begging his family for cash or putting their house up for a loan? We all know that story usually has a "happy" ending. Right?

                                          Well, SoftBank is basically doing the same thing. They are talking to banks to get a massive $40 billion loan just to buy a stake in OpenAI. It is their biggest loan ever. I’m sure betting the house on a single hand will work out perfectly this time. https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/softbank-seeks-record-40-billion-loan-financing-banks-fund-openai-stake-invest-masayoshi-son-ai-bubble-concern-liquidity-11772773618772.html

                                          These AI people are running out of money

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                                          @nixCraft

                                          Given the money is going around and around between different AI companies (or not, it's sometimes just promises to do so) then I'm sure someone will lend SoftBank the money.

                                          Maybe Nvidia? 😕🤷‍♂️

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