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You know how a gambler who loses it all starts begging his family for cash or putting their house up for a loan?

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  • marco@mastodon.skup.inM marco@mastodon.skup.in

    @nixCraft on one hand it makes me very happy to see the AI bubble burst, but it's incredibly sad to see that workers are the ones to suffer again

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    @marco @nixCraft will not be a burst, but more a market correction.

    meaning 80 - 90 % of AI startup and company will go bankrupt, while other will take a major hit.

    AI will not disapear (like the web during the .com bubble) did not disapear.

    but only actually usefull feature will remain (not many).

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    • mvrenselaar@mastodon.nlM mvrenselaar@mastodon.nl

      @nixCraft agree… also too much pension money in there as well… pushed by investment banks… its gonna be bad….

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      @mvrenselaar yeah, due to pension money i fear governments will step in again and honest tax payers will have pay for these AGI dreams of tech bros.

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      • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

        @marco @nixCraft will not be a burst, but more a market correction.

        meaning 80 - 90 % of AI startup and company will go bankrupt, while other will take a major hit.

        AI will not disapear (like the web during the .com bubble) did not disapear.

        but only actually usefull feature will remain (not many).

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        @lexinova @marco @nixCraft if it requires AI to be financially solvent and profitable it will all but disappear. Or, your chats will cost $10 per message. I guess the market will decide

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        • nbailey@mstdn.caN nbailey@mstdn.ca

          @lexinova @marco @nixCraft if it requires AI to be financially solvent and profitable it will all but disappear. Or, your chats will cost $10 per message. I guess the market will decide

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          @nbailey @marco @nixCraft here you make a miskate by englobing AI under "genai" like chatgpt.

          but dozen of profitable AI run without behing those useless AI chat.

          like document analysis, gramatical or tone correction and other system that do allow the fast analisis of existing information.

          the part of AI that is dogsh*t is when you ask the AI to create thing.

          edit: but thos ai that sell represent less than 1% of all AI BS so yeah it will not disapear.

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            @mvrenselaar yeah, due to pension money i fear governments will step in again and honest tax payers will have pay for these AGI dreams of tech bros.

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            @nixCraft dreams? Or hallucinations 😎

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              these are early signs that the AI bubble is about to pop (combined with wars and tariff biz). When it does, it won’t just sink those "Plagiarism Machine" startups, it will create a massive problems for the whole IT/tech industry and it will even hurt other businesses too. It's going to be so bad that the Great Depression of 1929 will look like a walk in the park.

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              @nixCraft cheery thought!

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                these are early signs that the AI bubble is about to pop (combined with wars and tariff biz). When it does, it won’t just sink those "Plagiarism Machine" startups, it will create a massive problems for the whole IT/tech industry and it will even hurt other businesses too. It's going to be so bad that the Great Depression of 1929 will look like a walk in the park.

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                @nixCraft
                Instead of the investors jumping out of windows... Can they be forced to eat the billionaires?

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                • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                  @nixCraft if only oracle could go bankrupt and take tiktok US with them.

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                  @lexinova i read somewhere kids are quitting TikTok due all sort of stuff happening .. i never used that app so no idea. lol.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    @lexinova i read somewhere kids are quitting TikTok due all sort of stuff happening .. i never used that app so no idea. lol.

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                    @nixCraft don't know either, but that would precipitate the process xD

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                    • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                      @nixCraft if only oracle could go bankrupt and take tiktok US with them.

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                      @lexinova @nixCraft
                      unfortunately I don't think Oracle will go under, they have friends in high places...

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                        @nixCraft @infosec812 Ed was right

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                          @nixCraft is the bubble bursting already?

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            these are early signs that the AI bubble is about to pop (combined with wars and tariff biz). When it does, it won’t just sink those "Plagiarism Machine" startups, it will create a massive problems for the whole IT/tech industry and it will even hurt other businesses too. It's going to be so bad that the Great Depression of 1929 will look like a walk in the park.

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                            @nixCraft It's already causing problems for the tech industry (see for example Valve further delaying their new hardware products and having stock problems with the Steam Deck). But when it pops, things are going to get a lot worse.

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                              @nixCraft @nivrig The big risk is when the software companies fold, Oracle is stuck with the infrastructure bill and real estate. Oracle raced to land grab with limited upside and all the risk.

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                                @nixCraft

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                                • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

                                  @nixCraft don't know either, but that would precipitate the process xD

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                                  @lexinova @nixCraft read somewhere (guardian?) there is supposedly an increase in sales for chinese language primers in the US. wouldn’t surprise me.

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                                    @nixCraft@mastodon.social

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                                    • coostax@fosstodon.orgC coostax@fosstodon.org

                                      @lexinova @nixCraft
                                      unfortunately I don't think Oracle will go under, they have friends in high places...

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                                      @coostax @lexinova @nixCraft Indeed. Oracle is to big to fail™️, and the fascists need the Ellisons for their propaganda

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        Over the past few weeks, several US banks have pulled off from lending to Oracle for expanding its AI data centres, as per a report. So Oracle is now firing 30000 engineers as banks pull out from financing AI data centres and OpenAI deals to meet fools dream. Wise investors are pulling out of data centres now as they found out it's impossible to reach AGI & exponential AI growth through increasing the scale of compute. LLMs have already hit their developmental plateau https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-layoffs-tech-giant-to-slash-30-000-jobs-as-banks-pull-out-from-financing-ai-data-centres-11769996619410.html

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                                        @nixCraft

                                        Feel bad for the folks that were working there, but also, fuck Oracle.

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                                        • keyboardg@mastodon.socialK keyboardg@mastodon.social

                                          @nixCraft @nivrig The big risk is when the software companies fold, Oracle is stuck with the infrastructure bill and real estate. Oracle raced to land grab with limited upside and all the risk.

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                                          @keyboardg @nixCraft @nivrig wow 30k that is going to
                                          Be noticed. I haven't seen numbers like that since 2008, Cisco had some layoff in that range.

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