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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @stefanlindbohm DB Navigator does though. But they do have separate UIC codes, and it is a short walk, but Cercanias does not have bag scanners, the high speed does.

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    @jon DB does a lot of manual entry/overrides on the data from other countries that are not published to third-parties by the other carriers. Check-in times for Eurostar missing is another example (and part of the reason we donโ€™t yet sell Eurostar despite having ticketing access).

    Weโ€™re basically redoing the work DB has done in their database on a case by case basis.

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      @stgm Norway is not in the EU

      And kindly, if you read the blog entry, Riksgrรคnsen - the last Swedish station on the line to Narvik - is explained

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        ๐Ÿ†• EU Longest Train Journey ๐Ÿ†•

        Kemijรคrvi ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ - Lagos ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

        ๐Ÿฆ… Geodesic: 4088.33km
        ๐Ÿ›ค๏ธ Route-km: 6251.5km

        โฑ๏ธTrip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
        ๐Ÿš†Trains: 16
        ๐Ÿ’ถ Cost: around โ‚ฌ400, with Interrail

        All mapped and explained here ๐Ÿ‘‡
        https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu

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        @jon If there's Internet and food, I'm in ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          @PerlPlayer Eh that is too nasty ๐Ÿ˜€ But it is there it is most likely to all go wrong!

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          #17

          @jon Is Deutsche Bahn pr German railways significantly worse than the rest of Europe?

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          • h0m54r@mastodon.socialH h0m54r@mastodon.social

            @jon A version of the route-km longest trip that might work is the pair of stations, connectable via scheduled rail service, where the shortest connection (without specifying any vias) is the longest. A first guess would be taking your final route and prepending the leg up from Helsinki. But itโ€™s much harder to do an exhaustive search than geodesic distance, so Iโ€™m not about to start writing the article on that one!

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            @h0m54r Yes, I see your point. That might somewhere in southern Finland or, I suppose, somewhere in Bulgaria maybe? But I agree it'd be hellish to calculate!

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @stefanlindbohm DB Navigator does though. But they do have separate UIC codes, and it is a short walk, but Cercanias does not have bag scanners, the high speed does.

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              @jon @stefanlindbohm I have made that exact transfer with packed bicycles. Although it leaves from a Cercanias platform ALVIAs are treated as high speed when it comes to rules like bicycles. (Not important in the grand scheme but annoying to me.)

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              • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                @jon DB does a lot of manual entry/overrides on the data from other countries that are not published to third-parties by the other carriers. Check-in times for Eurostar missing is another example (and part of the reason we donโ€™t yet sell Eurostar despite having ticketing access).

                Weโ€™re basically redoing the work DB has done in their database on a case by case basis.

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                @stefanlindbohm It does some manual overrides on its OWN data too ๐Ÿ™‚ (see the mess of connection times in Mannheim for example!)

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                • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                  @jon Is Deutsche Bahn pr German railways significantly worse than the rest of Europe?

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                  @malte Reliability is a real problem currently. This is not a PR or comms issue!

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    @stefanlindbohm It does some manual overrides on its OWN data too ๐Ÿ™‚ (see the mess of connection times in Mannheim for example!)

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                    @jon If thereโ€™s one thing Iโ€™ve learned working with this itโ€™s that you never run out of reasons to manually override some supposedly standardised data ๐Ÿ˜„

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      ๐Ÿ†• EU Longest Train Journey ๐Ÿ†•

                      Kemijรคrvi ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ - Lagos ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

                      ๐Ÿฆ… Geodesic: 4088.33km
                      ๐Ÿ›ค๏ธ Route-km: 6251.5km

                      โฑ๏ธTrip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
                      ๐Ÿš†Trains: 16
                      ๐Ÿ’ถ Cost: around โ‚ฌ400, with Interrail

                      All mapped and explained here ๐Ÿ‘‡
                      https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu

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                      #23

                      @jon any cost ball park figure you'd share with us ? Did you run that travel or any of your friends/relatives ?
                      Interested genuine questions.
                      Thanks for the time.

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                      • vladimirn@piaille.frV vladimirn@piaille.fr

                        @jon any cost ball park figure you'd share with us ? Did you run that travel or any of your friends/relatives ?
                        Interested genuine questions.
                        Thanks for the time.

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                        #24

                        @VladimirN the post literally has a cost in it! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                          @jon The two Atocha stations donโ€™t even have an official transfer connection between them ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ. I should probably ask what is intended there because we donโ€™t currently support a transfer between them at all.

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                          @stefanlindbohm @jon why would you use cercanias if you can use Cuencanias?

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @josgeluk Some Youtuber I would wager.

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                            @jon @josgeluk Mike Downie did it on his show, Downie Live (Downie Express on Nebula). https://nebula.tv/videos/downielive-taking-the-train-from-the-arctic-circle-to-africa-full-series/

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                            • R ruben@zug.network

                              @stefanlindbohm @jon why would you use cercanias if you can use Cuencanias?

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                              @ruben @stefanlindbohm ah thatโ€™s clever. But I think it wonโ€™t save any total time compared to Puertollano.

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                @VladimirN the post literally has a cost in it! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                @jon OUCH ! thanks for the lead as my eyes are weak.
                                I'm heading to your blog.
                                You're not answering my other question and looking at the comments, I understand it is a nope.

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                                • gavin57@toot.walesG gavin57@toot.wales

                                  @jon @josgeluk Mike Downie did it on his show, Downie Live (Downie Express on Nebula). https://nebula.tv/videos/downielive-taking-the-train-from-the-arctic-circle-to-africa-full-series/

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                                  @gavin57 @josgeluk well no he didnโ€™t. Because no train currently runs from Kemi to Haparanda. He did something vaguely similar.

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                                  • vladimirn@piaille.frV vladimirn@piaille.fr

                                    @jon OUCH ! thanks for the lead as my eyes are weak.
                                    I'm heading to your blog.
                                    You're not answering my other question and looking at the comments, I understand it is a nope.

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                                    @VladimirN itโ€™ll only be possible from this summer onwards. Iโ€™m not personally planning on doing it. Not yet anyway.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      @gavin57 @josgeluk well no he didnโ€™t. Because no train currently runs from Kemi to Haparanda. He did something vaguely similar.

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                                      @jon @gavin57 @josgeluk lots of lovely bus lines between those two when I lived in Tornio

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                                      • shapr@recurse.socialS shapr@recurse.social

                                        @jon @gavin57 @josgeluk lots of lovely bus lines between those two when I lived in Tornio

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                                        @shapr @gavin57 @josgeluk which helps me how, given this is about the longest train ride in the EU! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          ๐Ÿ†• EU Longest Train Journey ๐Ÿ†•

                                          Kemijรคrvi ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ - Lagos ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

                                          ๐Ÿฆ… Geodesic: 4088.33km
                                          ๐Ÿ›ค๏ธ Route-km: 6251.5km

                                          โฑ๏ธTrip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
                                          ๐Ÿš†Trains: 16
                                          ๐Ÿ’ถ Cost: around โ‚ฌ400, with Interrail

                                          All mapped and explained here ๐Ÿ‘‡
                                          https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu

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                                          @jon Wouldn't it be longer if you went from Helsinki though?

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