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  • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jon@gruene.social
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    #15

    @stgm Norway is not in the EU

    And kindly, if you read the blog entry, Riksgrรคnsen - the last Swedish station on the line to Narvik - is explained

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      ๐Ÿ†• EU Longest Train Journey ๐Ÿ†•

      Kemijรคrvi ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ - Lagos ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

      ๐Ÿฆ… Geodesic: 4088.33km
      ๐Ÿ›ค๏ธ Route-km: 6251.5km

      โฑ๏ธTrip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
      ๐Ÿš†Trains: 16
      ๐Ÿ’ถ Cost: around โ‚ฌ400, with Interrail

      All mapped and explained here ๐Ÿ‘‡
      https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu

      tonanio@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      tonanio@mastodon.social
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      #16

      @jon If there's Internet and food, I'm in ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @PerlPlayer Eh that is too nasty ๐Ÿ˜€ But it is there it is most likely to all go wrong!

        malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        malte@radikal.social
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        #17

        @jon Is Deutsche Bahn pr German railways significantly worse than the rest of Europe?

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        • h0m54r@mastodon.socialH h0m54r@mastodon.social

          @jon A version of the route-km longest trip that might work is the pair of stations, connectable via scheduled rail service, where the shortest connection (without specifying any vias) is the longest. A first guess would be taking your final route and prepending the leg up from Helsinki. But itโ€™s much harder to do an exhaustive search than geodesic distance, so Iโ€™m not about to start writing the article on that one!

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          #18

          @h0m54r Yes, I see your point. That might somewhere in southern Finland or, I suppose, somewhere in Bulgaria maybe? But I agree it'd be hellish to calculate!

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @stefanlindbohm DB Navigator does though. But they do have separate UIC codes, and it is a short walk, but Cercanias does not have bag scanners, the high speed does.

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            redjives@todon.eu
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            #19

            @jon @stefanlindbohm I have made that exact transfer with packed bicycles. Although it leaves from a Cercanias platform ALVIAs are treated as high speed when it comes to rules like bicycles. (Not important in the grand scheme but annoying to me.)

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            • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

              @jon DB does a lot of manual entry/overrides on the data from other countries that are not published to third-parties by the other carriers. Check-in times for Eurostar missing is another example (and part of the reason we donโ€™t yet sell Eurostar despite having ticketing access).

              Weโ€™re basically redoing the work DB has done in their database on a case by case basis.

              jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              jon@gruene.social
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              #20

              @stefanlindbohm It does some manual overrides on its OWN data too ๐Ÿ™‚ (see the mess of connection times in Mannheim for example!)

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              • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                @jon Is Deutsche Bahn pr German railways significantly worse than the rest of Europe?

                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                jon@gruene.social
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                #21

                @malte Reliability is a real problem currently. This is not a PR or comms issue!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  @stefanlindbohm It does some manual overrides on its OWN data too ๐Ÿ™‚ (see the mess of connection times in Mannheim for example!)

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                  stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social
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                  #22

                  @jon If thereโ€™s one thing Iโ€™ve learned working with this itโ€™s that you never run out of reasons to manually override some supposedly standardised data ๐Ÿ˜„

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    ๐Ÿ†• EU Longest Train Journey ๐Ÿ†•

                    Kemijรคrvi ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ - Lagos ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

                    ๐Ÿฆ… Geodesic: 4088.33km
                    ๐Ÿ›ค๏ธ Route-km: 6251.5km

                    โฑ๏ธTrip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
                    ๐Ÿš†Trains: 16
                    ๐Ÿ’ถ Cost: around โ‚ฌ400, with Interrail

                    All mapped and explained here ๐Ÿ‘‡
                    https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu

                    vladimirn@piaille.frV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    vladimirn@piaille.fr
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                    #23

                    @jon any cost ball park figure you'd share with us ? Did you run that travel or any of your friends/relatives ?
                    Interested genuine questions.
                    Thanks for the time.

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                    • vladimirn@piaille.frV vladimirn@piaille.fr

                      @jon any cost ball park figure you'd share with us ? Did you run that travel or any of your friends/relatives ?
                      Interested genuine questions.
                      Thanks for the time.

                      jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      jon@gruene.social
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                      #24

                      @VladimirN the post literally has a cost in it! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                      • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                        @jon The two Atocha stations donโ€™t even have an official transfer connection between them ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ. I should probably ask what is intended there because we donโ€™t currently support a transfer between them at all.

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                        ruben@zug.network
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                        #25

                        @stefanlindbohm @jon why would you use cercanias if you can use Cuencanias?

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @josgeluk Some Youtuber I would wager.

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                          #26

                          @jon @josgeluk Mike Downie did it on his show, Downie Live (Downie Express on Nebula). https://nebula.tv/videos/downielive-taking-the-train-from-the-arctic-circle-to-africa-full-series/

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                          • R ruben@zug.network

                            @stefanlindbohm @jon why would you use cercanias if you can use Cuencanias?

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                            @ruben @stefanlindbohm ah thatโ€™s clever. But I think it wonโ€™t save any total time compared to Puertollano.

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              @VladimirN the post literally has a cost in it! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                              vladimirn@piaille.fr
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                              #28

                              @jon OUCH ! thanks for the lead as my eyes are weak.
                              I'm heading to your blog.
                              You're not answering my other question and looking at the comments, I understand it is a nope.

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                              • gavin57@toot.walesG gavin57@toot.wales

                                @jon @josgeluk Mike Downie did it on his show, Downie Live (Downie Express on Nebula). https://nebula.tv/videos/downielive-taking-the-train-from-the-arctic-circle-to-africa-full-series/

                                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                jon@gruene.social
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                                #29

                                @gavin57 @josgeluk well no he didnโ€™t. Because no train currently runs from Kemi to Haparanda. He did something vaguely similar.

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                                • vladimirn@piaille.frV vladimirn@piaille.fr

                                  @jon OUCH ! thanks for the lead as my eyes are weak.
                                  I'm heading to your blog.
                                  You're not answering my other question and looking at the comments, I understand it is a nope.

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                                  jon@gruene.social
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                                  #30

                                  @VladimirN itโ€™ll only be possible from this summer onwards. Iโ€™m not personally planning on doing it. Not yet anyway.

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    @gavin57 @josgeluk well no he didnโ€™t. Because no train currently runs from Kemi to Haparanda. He did something vaguely similar.

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                                    shapr@recurse.social
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                                    @jon @gavin57 @josgeluk lots of lovely bus lines between those two when I lived in Tornio

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                                    • shapr@recurse.socialS shapr@recurse.social

                                      @jon @gavin57 @josgeluk lots of lovely bus lines between those two when I lived in Tornio

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                                      jon@gruene.social
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                                      #32

                                      @shapr @gavin57 @josgeluk which helps me how, given this is about the longest train ride in the EU! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        ๐Ÿ†• EU Longest Train Journey ๐Ÿ†•

                                        Kemijรคrvi ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ - Lagos ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น

                                        ๐Ÿฆ… Geodesic: 4088.33km
                                        ๐Ÿ›ค๏ธ Route-km: 6251.5km

                                        โฑ๏ธTrip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
                                        ๐Ÿš†Trains: 16
                                        ๐Ÿ’ถ Cost: around โ‚ฌ400, with Interrail

                                        All mapped and explained here ๐Ÿ‘‡
                                        https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu

                                        grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        grumpydad@infosec.exchange
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                                        #33

                                        @jon Wouldn't it be longer if you went from Helsinki though?

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                                        • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                                          @jon Wouldn't it be longer if you went from Helsinki though?

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                                          jon@gruene.social
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                                          #34

                                          @grumpydad read the blog post

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