🆕 EU Longest Train Journey 🆕

[jon@gruene.social]

@Pepijn Something through Germany, yes. Or the Boden - Stockholm breaks down.

[stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social]

@jon The two Atocha stations don’t even have an official transfer connection between them ‍. I should probably ask what is intended there because we don’t currently support a transfer between them at all.

[perlplayer@mastodon.social]

@jon it would take only 30h if it won't go through Germany

[jon@gruene.social]

@stefanlindbohm DB Navigator does though. But they do have separate UIC codes, and it is a short walk, but Cercanias does not have bag scanners, the high speed does.

[jon@gruene.social]

@PerlPlayer Eh that is too nasty But it is there it is most likely to all go wrong!

[h0m54r@mastodon.social]

@jon If the two Madrid stations are considered separate just because the have different UIC codes, then the same logic would separate München Hbf from München Hbf Gleis 5–10, which would just be absurd.

[jon@gruene.social]

@h0m54r München Hbf has 4 UIC codes, as does Paris Gare de Lyon...

But we need some better definition than "it's the same building" I think!

[h0m54r@mastodon.social]

@jon A version of the route-km longest trip that might work is the pair of stations, connectable via scheduled rail service, where the shortest connection (without specifying any vias) is the longest. A first guess would be taking your final route and prepending the leg up from Helsinki. But it’s much harder to do an exhaustive search than geodesic distance, so I’m not about to start writing the article on that one!

[stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social]

@jon DB does a lot of manual entry/overrides on the data from other countries that are not published to third-parties by the other carriers. Check-in times for Eurostar missing is another example (and part of the reason we don’t yet sell Eurostar despite having ticketing access).

We’re basically redoing the work DB has done in their database on a case by case basis.

[jon@gruene.social]

@stgm Norway is not in the EU

And kindly, if you read the blog entry, Riksgränsen - the last Swedish station on the line to Narvik - is explained

[tonanio@mastodon.social]

@jon If there's Internet and food, I'm in

[malte@radikal.social]

@jon Is Deutsche Bahn pr German railways significantly worse than the rest of Europe?

[jon@gruene.social]

@h0m54r Yes, I see your point. That might somewhere in southern Finland or, I suppose, somewhere in Bulgaria maybe? But I agree it'd be hellish to calculate!

[redjives@todon.eu]

@jon @stefanlindbohm I have made that exact transfer with packed bicycles. Although it leaves from a Cercanias platform ALVIAs are treated as high speed when it comes to rules like bicycles. (Not important in the grand scheme but annoying to me.)

[jon@gruene.social]

@stefanlindbohm It does some manual overrides on its OWN data too (see the mess of connection times in Mannheim for example!)

[jon@gruene.social]

@malte Reliability is a real problem currently. This is not a PR or comms issue!

[stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social]

@jon If there’s one thing I’ve learned working with this it’s that you never run out of reasons to manually override some supposedly standardised data

[vladimirn@piaille.fr]

@jon any cost ball park figure you'd share with us ? Did you run that travel or any of your friends/relatives ?
Interested genuine questions.
Thanks for the time.

[jon@gruene.social]

@VladimirN the post literally has a cost in it!

[ruben@zug.network]

@stefanlindbohm @jon why would you use cercanias if you can use Cuencanias?