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You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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  • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

    You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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    @beyondmachines1 So it will be put in every smartphone on this planet.

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    • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

      @beyondmachines1 Marx said that class struggle ends with the victory of the rising class, or the mutual ruin of the contending classes.

      There is a third possible outcome: the ruling class succeeds in defeating the producing class, not understanding that the entire system was based on the ruling class wrecking things and the producing class repairing the damage and improving things in the process.

      With the producing class defeated, the wrecking accelerates.

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      @foolishowl Yes, that would lead to mutual ruin -- the second result Marx specific. You're just describing a specific version of it.

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      • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

        @beyondmachines1
        And maybe 40% of the time it's garbage, but plausible. Without the experts you fired, you don't know when it's wrong.

        So even if it was free, it would only really be a toy.

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        @raymaccarthy @beyondmachines1 s/it would only really be a toy/you would only really be a tool

        Edit : I misread the original so here is what I intended originally for the sentence to look like.

        #thereifixedyourtoot

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        • vive_levant@masto.bikeV vive_levant@masto.bike

          @raymaccarthy @beyondmachines1 s/it would only really be a toy/you would only really be a tool

          Edit : I misread the original so here is what I intended originally for the sentence to look like.

          #thereifixedyourtoot

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          @Vive_Levant @beyondmachines1
          I've used real, working computer tools professionally for decades and written them.
          Also computer toys. I know the difference.

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          • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

            @Vive_Levant @beyondmachines1
            I've used real, working computer tools professionally for decades and written them.
            Also computer toys. I know the difference.

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            @raymaccarthy @beyondmachines1 you can check the two possibilities of the third meaning to get my point : https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tool

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            • vive_levant@masto.bikeV vive_levant@masto.bike

              @raymaccarthy @beyondmachines1 you can check the two possibilities of the third meaning to get my point : https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tool

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              @raymaccarthy @beyondmachines1 oups, my bad, I overlooked your sentence and was certain to have read « YOU would only really be a toy. »
              In this case my substitution worked, but you were right, with IT, it didn’t. Apologies.

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              • lastdinosaur@lastdinosaur.clubL lastdinosaur@lastdinosaur.club
                @beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                this isnt going to matter to any c suite retards until ai bankrupts a large company (which seems unlikely) and they start a trend of posting on linkedin about the problem.
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                @lastdinosaur Mature adults don't use that word that way. You should know better.

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                • fightscore@mastodon.socialF fightscore@mastodon.social

                  @beyondmachines1 To be fair, AI has its use, right? Maybe the business model just got to be better, maybe token count might need tweaking -- maybe put weight to something like output value, rather than input/output count.
                  To be sure, AI should not replace humans, rather augment us.

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                  @fightscore There are things it's proven very good at, mostly things it's already been doing for some years. Protein-folding, for example.

                  At the risk of discomforting some people, a good way to think about it is that AI tends to be good at things that autistic people are -- monotonous scanning, counting, etc. -- but has essentially perfect memory compared to humans, and far more powerful computational capacity. So it's good at things that require those tasks.

                  But not most other stuff.

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                  • kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @beyondmachines1 Why are so many of these anti-ai posts so obviously written by an LLM?

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                    @kepeken What gives you that impression? Please don't tell me that you're one of those people who confuses competent literacy with fakery.

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                    • elhadjimurad@beige.partyE elhadjimurad@beige.party

                      @chantaryu2 @beyondmachines1 Oups - sorry - I didn't intend the reply to be critical of you - I reworded it a bit.

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                      @ElHadjiMurad @beyondmachines1 no worries 😃

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                      • ptr_k@dice.campP ptr_k@dice.camp

                        @beyondmachines1
                        Maybe my brain is just focused on body horror today, but I think I'm going to have this unintended phrase in the back of my mind every time LLMs come up.

                        #LLMs #AI

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                        @PTR_K sorry about that.

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                        • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

                          @beyondmachines1 Satan is sitting, meanwhile, on his throne in hell cursing every demon in thrall to him because they didn't come up with this plan first.

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                          @capnthommo not sure. Don't stop your enemy when they are making a mistake still stands.

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                          • kookie@chaosfem.twK kookie@chaosfem.tw

                            @beyondmachines1 If only they had hired people to tell them this 2 years ago 🤣

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                            @kookie maybe they did. I've been speaking this same thing for about a year at conferences full of HR and CEOs. No takers until they see the invoice.

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                            • fh0@mastodon.socialF fh0@mastodon.social

                              @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 sounds like you never experienced an LLM finding the source of a production bug based on log files, code and given context, in less than 10min where you would have needed at least half a day

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                              @fh0 profile pic checks out

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                              • terminhell@mastodon.socialT terminhell@mastodon.social

                                @beyondmachines1 Is the tech useful in some places/needs. Yes of course. Is it the hype it's been sold as? Not even close. I don't think we'll achieve AGI until new forms of power production come along that can scale with this.

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                                @beyondmachines1 As a follow up, a Meta DC is being built just miles from my house. Two power plants are part of the deal...a backup power plant.

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                                • kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @beyondmachines1 Why are so many of these anti-ai posts so obviously written by an LLM?

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                                  @kepeken @beyondmachines1

                                  Drop in, stir some shit, ghost; I know that pattern as well and the response is; #WhackATroll good bye

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                                  • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                    @PTR_K sorry about that.

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                                    @beyondmachines1
                                    No need for apology. It's an apt description.

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                                    • fh0@mastodon.socialF fh0@mastodon.social

                                      @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 sounds like you never experienced an LLM finding the source of a production bug based on log files, code and given context, in less than 10min where you would have needed at least half a day

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                                      @fh0@mastodon.social @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1

                                      Sounds like you never experienced two day per week watering because of a changing environment and having that available water flowing into a data center drive up your cost for those two days as well.
                                      Regardless; defend this shit all you want but I don't feel inclined to read your comments. #KTB

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                                      • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                        @kepeken What gives you that impression? Please don't tell me that you're one of those people who confuses competent literacy with fakery.

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                                        @wesdym It's because it's structured like this:

                                        No X. No Y. Just Z.

                                        And also
                                        You didn't X. You YYYY.

                                        Then there's the fact that "the AI stops when it runs out of tokens" is not a fitting expression. It shows a sentence written with an understanding of the context and English, but not the mechanics behind the topic.

                                        None of these prove that a human did not write it, so I said "why are so many" instead of "why is this" directly. (Since, if you have 10 80% chances you have a lot of examples.)

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                                        • kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @wesdym It's because it's structured like this:

                                          No X. No Y. Just Z.

                                          And also
                                          You didn't X. You YYYY.

                                          Then there's the fact that "the AI stops when it runs out of tokens" is not a fitting expression. It shows a sentence written with an understanding of the context and English, but not the mechanics behind the topic.

                                          None of these prove that a human did not write it, so I said "why are so many" instead of "why is this" directly. (Since, if you have 10 80% chances you have a lot of examples.)

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                                          @kepeken Um, okay, sure, whatever.

                                          It's a nice day to go for a walk. I suggest that.

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