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Unlike my floppy drive box, only a single goat has pissed on my PCjr box

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  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

    This is the PCjr CGA video cable.

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    This one actually had the original box, but for the first time in my life, I told them not to even ship me the box. It was in that bad condition.

    And given how I'm happy about my external Tandy drive box, that should tell you something.

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    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

      This one actually had the original box, but for the first time in my life, I told them not to even ship me the box. It was in that bad condition.

      And given how I'm happy about my external Tandy drive box, that should tell you something.

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      I joked about them being $20 but I see a listing for one for $90. The entire boxed PCjr I got was $150, for comparison.

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      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

        This is the PCjr CGA video cable.

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        @gloriouscow wait, is that just a standard 0.100 female header connector? That's all?

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        • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

          @gloriouscow wait, is that just a standard 0.100 female header connector? That's all?

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          @petrillic All the PCjr IO is two big berg strips with some plastic spacers that key the connections one way. Remeber they were trying to make it as cheap as possible to manufacture.

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          • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

            This one actually had the original box, but for the first time in my life, I told them not to even ship me the box. It was in that bad condition.

            And given how I'm happy about my external Tandy drive box, that should tell you something.

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            @gloriouscow I got rid of my Virtual Boy box for more space in my closet. I uhhh... regret that.

            (To be clear, I got my VB for Christmas 2007. There just happened to be a local store with one in box.)

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            • cr1901@mastodon.socialC cr1901@mastodon.social

              @gloriouscow I got rid of my Virtual Boy box for more space in my closet. I uhhh... regret that.

              (To be clear, I got my VB for Christmas 2007. There just happened to be a local store with one in box.)

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              @cr1901 every other collector thanks you for making their boxes more valuable

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              • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                @cr1901 every other collector thanks you for making their boxes more valuable

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                @gloriouscow At least I know I made a mistake and can learn from it. Consolation?

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                • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                  I joked about them being $20 but I see a listing for one for $90. The entire boxed PCjr I got was $150, for comparison.

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                  If you're not familiar with the whole Computer Reset saga, check out LGR's videos:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM82T3C2Ik
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ZZkZk9QRk

                  Basically, a large warehouse full of 80's vintage hardware was discovered after the owner passed away and the family reached out for help.

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                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                    If you're not familiar with the whole Computer Reset saga, check out LGR's videos:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM82T3C2Ik
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ZZkZk9QRk

                    Basically, a large warehouse full of 80's vintage hardware was discovered after the owner passed away and the family reached out for help.

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                    Among the items were hundreds of PCjr related items, most still new in sealed boxes. These items have since flooded the secondary market.

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                    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                      Among the items were hundreds of PCjr related items, most still new in sealed boxes. These items have since flooded the secondary market.

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                      Due to the scale of the clean-out, not everyone who arrived at the warehouse had purely charitable motives, and so you'll find people hawking NIB PCjr joysticks for way more than they should go for, because they walked out of the warehouse after paying pennies on the dollar for them.

                      (Note: LGR is not at fault in any way, and most of the people that showed up to help I'm sure had good intentions)

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                      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                        Due to the scale of the clean-out, not everyone who arrived at the warehouse had purely charitable motives, and so you'll find people hawking NIB PCjr joysticks for way more than they should go for, because they walked out of the warehouse after paying pennies on the dollar for them.

                        (Note: LGR is not at fault in any way, and most of the people that showed up to help I'm sure had good intentions)

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                        If you're selling NIB PCjr CGA cables for $90 however, you need to be proverbially kicked in your D port.

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                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                          @petrillic All the PCjr IO is two big berg strips with some plastic spacers that key the connections one way. Remeber they were trying to make it as cheap as possible to manufacture.

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                          @gloriouscow

                          Secret shame: back in the 80's I bought the PCjr thermal printer because it was cheap and I thought I could interface it to my Tandy CoCo3. Never could get it to work, eventually trashed the printer.

                          I've thought about getting another one and trying again (I have much better understanding of the CoCo's quirks) but those printers did not age well.

                          But yes. That connector. Grr.😠

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                          • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                            The worst part of packing up to leave your hotel room is always putting your PCjr back together

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                            Now that I'm home I can take my PCjr's pants off and show you even more.

                            This is the PCjr sidecar connector. Lacking ISA slots, you attached modules called Sidecars to the side of your peanut after removing a plastic cover.

                            Each sidecar gave you a new sidecar connector on the opposite side, allowing you to make a ridiculously wide PCjr by adding lots of Sidecars.

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                            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                              Now that I'm home I can take my PCjr's pants off and show you even more.

                              This is the PCjr sidecar connector. Lacking ISA slots, you attached modules called Sidecars to the side of your peanut after removing a plastic cover.

                              Each sidecar gave you a new sidecar connector on the opposite side, allowing you to make a ridiculously wide PCjr by adding lots of Sidecars.

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                              Eventually you might stress out the PCjr's tiny little power supply by adding too many sidecars!

                              What to do?

                              Why, add a power attachment sidecar, to inject more juice into the middle of your sloppy sidecar sandwich!

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                              • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                Eventually you might stress out the PCjr's tiny little power supply by adding too many sidecars!

                                What to do?

                                Why, add a power attachment sidecar, to inject more juice into the middle of your sloppy sidecar sandwich!

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                                Here are some of the sidecars available:

                                Cluster Adapter - this was a pre-ethernet networking standard that could connect up to 64 computers on a coaxial cable.

                                Parallel Port - you want to print? Some printers were serial, but parallel printers became somewhat ubiquitous over time.

                                Speech Attachment - you remember Dr Sbaitso, that creepy voice thing that came with your Soundblaster drivers? Did you love that? Well, do I have the sidecar for you. If you can afford it.

                                Memory Sidecars - several kinds of these were available - IBM had some, but companies like Racore and even Microsoft made them. Usually the expansion RAM was faster than the onboard PCjr RAM, so these were pretty essential upgrades.

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                                • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                  Here are some of the sidecars available:

                                  Cluster Adapter - this was a pre-ethernet networking standard that could connect up to 64 computers on a coaxial cable.

                                  Parallel Port - you want to print? Some printers were serial, but parallel printers became somewhat ubiquitous over time.

                                  Speech Attachment - you remember Dr Sbaitso, that creepy voice thing that came with your Soundblaster drivers? Did you love that? Well, do I have the sidecar for you. If you can afford it.

                                  Memory Sidecars - several kinds of these were available - IBM had some, but companies like Racore and even Microsoft made them. Usually the expansion RAM was faster than the onboard PCjr RAM, so these were pretty essential upgrades.

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                                  @gloriouscow wait... cluster adapter?

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                                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                    Here are some of the sidecars available:

                                    Cluster Adapter - this was a pre-ethernet networking standard that could connect up to 64 computers on a coaxial cable.

                                    Parallel Port - you want to print? Some printers were serial, but parallel printers became somewhat ubiquitous over time.

                                    Speech Attachment - you remember Dr Sbaitso, that creepy voice thing that came with your Soundblaster drivers? Did you love that? Well, do I have the sidecar for you. If you can afford it.

                                    Memory Sidecars - several kinds of these were available - IBM had some, but companies like Racore and even Microsoft made them. Usually the expansion RAM was faster than the onboard PCjr RAM, so these were pretty essential upgrades.

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                                    @gloriouscow The key with memory sidecars wasn't that the RAM itself was fast, it was the fact that the RAM wasn't shared with the video adapter, so it could run at equivalent speed to a normal XT.

                                    Once I got my memory sidecar, I immediately wrote a TSR that ate up all the shared video RAM so that everything else I ran went at full speed. Made a huge difference!

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                                    • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                                      @gloriouscow wait... cluster adapter?

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                                      @petrillic Cluster Adapter!

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                                        @gloriouscow The key with memory sidecars wasn't that the RAM itself was fast, it was the fact that the RAM wasn't shared with the video adapter, so it could run at equivalent speed to a normal XT.

                                        Once I got my memory sidecar, I immediately wrote a TSR that ate up all the shared video RAM so that everything else I ran went at full speed. Made a huge difference!

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                                        @aaronsgiles I will eventually delve into the horrors of PCjr wait states.

                                        Today you can use JRCONFIG.SYS to relocate MS-DOS above the 128K boundary, but it is a bit odd as your system basically boots twice.

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                                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                          Here are some of the sidecars available:

                                          Cluster Adapter - this was a pre-ethernet networking standard that could connect up to 64 computers on a coaxial cable.

                                          Parallel Port - you want to print? Some printers were serial, but parallel printers became somewhat ubiquitous over time.

                                          Speech Attachment - you remember Dr Sbaitso, that creepy voice thing that came with your Soundblaster drivers? Did you love that? Well, do I have the sidecar for you. If you can afford it.

                                          Memory Sidecars - several kinds of these were available - IBM had some, but companies like Racore and even Microsoft made them. Usually the expansion RAM was faster than the onboard PCjr RAM, so these were pretty essential upgrades.

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                                          Since @aaronsgiles brought it up, let's talk about the PCjr's video system.

                                          The VGA.

                                          No, not that VGA.

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